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(Complete) Devil In The Waters, Book 2, Chapter 4

🕑 Added 2019-12-31 04:01:43 +0000 UTC

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TF

Exactly

KT Morrison

Nope—edit away!

JamesIsAsleep

KT, do you see notifications if a reply is edited? If you did you would probably get like a dozen emails from me. I love how much freedom we have to make sure our point is put across with the ability to edit on this site!

DavidnDaria

I'm not certain, but I think I might have screwed up a post in here somehow. It's not here. Oh, well. That would be quite a twist, Red. Yeah, it'd end up on the news or Dateline! A while back, my wife used to watch Dateline a lot. I'd walk by and say, "It's the husband!" Of course, it was in 90 percent of the cases. In this case, it would be a consipiracy worthy of Lester Holt. :)

RCH

Only Hertz if you don't have enough lubrication.

RCH

Here's a twist Josh catches the two of them in bed. Josh takes out Devin you pick a weapon (baseball bat, golf club...) Kimmy extricate herself from under Devin's lifeless body. She smiles and hugs Josh and says "that worked out nicely. He'll never bully us again." Brains over brawn, Devin is defeated by his arrogance. Kimmy was able make Devin believe that he was to good for her to resist! Josh and Kimmy successfully set him up for an affair the would end with Josh in a rage of passion kills her lover... Silly, but it would be worthy of the 11 o'clock news!!!

TF

Are the units of frequency Hertz?

DavidnDaria

Both my wife and I think Josh knows but is really having problems processing. He wants confirmation--hence Amy--but is making excuses in his own way to avoid the confrontation. Maybe he's hoping Kimmy will come cleaner? He's got all the evidence he needs, but having been there myself, I can tell you two things: 1) You know. You don't want to believe what you know, even right up to the inevitable confrontation. 2) Being right is very difficult to accept. On a baser level, it was the last thing I wanted to be right about. For me, there was nothing hot or erotic about being right. While I doubt this will happen in the story because Josh is just not that guy, hate sex, anger sex, or whatever you want to call it, is simply an unsatisfactory outlet for everything being held in, but would be welcome in this story. While my wife enjoyed hell out of it, I didn't. It led to waking up in cold sweats in the middle of the night, going downstairs and bawling. The level of pain, anger, and anguish was far beyond anything I'd ever experienced. Different, but on level similar, but most of the times beyond what I felt when I lost my parents. In the end, everyone handles infidelity differently. After fits and starts and because of who we are, it opened doors that many other couples would have simply slammed shut. Stories like this are fun to read, sincerely. I'd be lying if I wrote that our experience hasn't colored our speculation herein.

JamesIsAsleep

TF - Yeah, this is the patented KT-Challenge, where the female character in a story does something that would objectively repulse every single human being reading the story, commit infidelity. I love her stories because she basically challenges the status quo reaction and asks us to truly examine, "What now?" after the dirty deed has been done, or more specifically "You've said you hate infidelity so much, but what if it involves someone who is dealing with this crazy ass scenario, is it as fair to pass judgment as much as you claim?" KT never condones infidelity in her stories, but she doesn't make it entirely unwarranted behavior, either. That's fun, lol. I think in this instance, Kimmy truly does love and respect Josh. Right now she has this really complicated bodily reaction to Devin that she knows is wrong when she starts to want him sexually, but also knows there's a tangible hatred that allows her to trust her gut that she can be in a room with him (that's a beautiful complication). I think she feels she is such a strong woman in the rest of her life that she believes she'll get to the bottom of this, solving the problem and all this betrayal she is committing with Josh that will blow over when the strong version of Kimmy's personality takes back over like it usually does and she confronts Devin on her own terms. As usual, my hope is that when she confronts Devin, that he is an stonger match than she hoped for and that biology is 'a hell of a drug,' as Rick James once said about cocaine in an important interview on the Chappelle Show, lol.

DavidnDaria

Red, Film at 11 type thing? That would be quite a departure.

RCH

Exactly! Trust should be falling off at the rate of: ((Pi * Radius squared) * length) * frequency) = Distrust increase rate. Engineer and hotwife husband!

RCH

Not so much cheering for Josh as wanting to see/hear Kimmy's reaction to Devin "Volume"! As far as Josh "Rising" I think that has already been established! I'm looking forward to Josh coming home to a Kimmy that has been ridden hard and put away wet! TF as long as the black hat is a ten gallon one because of the needed "Volume".

TF

Without the guy in the black hat there is no story, so cheer on.

RCH

My comment about KT character writing is that Josh has to be fully aware that Kimmy is lying! KT couldn't write a character that was so gullible. Josh has got to be putting it all together. It's all about how he is going to react to the truth.

RCH

Nothing wrong with Texas DnD! I'm just saying Josh would have more options! Firearms are the great equalizer. The only good bully is a... Sorry to our peace loving Canadian neighbors! Don't want to get into a firearms debate here. I'm a devout Libertarian so you have an idea where I stand though!

Tim ziegler

One of my main reasons I usually like a book is because I like the characters The story can be about anything stupid.Josh is only one I like he knows something’s up,but still trying to trust Kimmy,but a whole lot of lying going on!Trust is slowly slipping away.

Wess

Amy seemed cold and bitchy but Josh's attempt at getting her to betray her friend was lame. I hope Josh isn't into Devin and Kimmy too much. I like the idea of his character stepping up and figuring things out but also struggling to believe or understand how she could do that. It makes the final devastation more spectacular. Damn, I sound dark. I need a snickers.

DavidnDaria

Hey now! I'm from Texas! :) Seriously, though... well, as serious as we can get here about a story, KT has really nailed the self-doubt Josh is feeling. It's all in the subtext, but it's there.

DavidnDaria

LMAO, Glaucon! Yeah, we do have more information! :) LOL! Too cool!

Glaucon

Happy New Year everybody!

Glaucon

I'm seeing lots of hoping for the Rise of Josh but I'm happily cheering for the antagonist here. BWAHAHAHAHA #sixseasonsandamovie

Glaucon

Also, to your point about Kimmy's friends - Amy in these last few chapters definitely made me side-eye that chapter 1 statement about her "loving" Josh. I stand by my early skepticism of that line!

Glaucon

It's easy for us to see through Kimmy's lying, we obviously have access to FAR more information than Josh does, including knowing what kind of book he's in :P. And of course, Josh wants to believe Kimmy. He wants none of this other stuff to be real, which motivates him to cling to those hopes. I buy Josh's character.

RCH

It's hard to say how this is all going to go down. Josh has already shown that this can be stimulating to him subconsciously. Will he continue down that path or will he react negatively to it all. He has to come to the reality that Kimmy lied about the business card. Kimmy is caught in that lie so now he'll start questioning her full story. If Josh's character is that stupid not to realize she is lying, then KT has lost the ability to write believable characters! I see him not taking action maybe trying to catch them in the act... Good thing this isn't in Texas as this would fall into the justifiable homicide realm.

TF

You know, I think you have put your finger on it. Kimmy and her friends do not have much respect for Josh. Maybe Devin is just the male bully of Josh's former classmates. Come to think about it we don't know all that much about Josh outside of his interactions with Kimmy et al v v the reunion. What are his accomplishments, strengths, etc.? I suspect there is more to him than the confused, wishy washy (Charlie Brown) personality he has shown up 'till now. That is, he has a middle management position (20 people managed) which is not to be scoffed at for a young person and one who apparently earned it by merit rather than family. Anyway I hope he uses his brains/guts to good effect as at the moment he is the only one wearing a white hat. But, when your wife and high school nemesis are colluding, it doesn't look good.

DavidnDaria

Kimmy, as much as she's lied... whew! This could end up being LHW 3! Or not. Josh could walk-in on Kimmy and Devin Tuesday and simply stand there, jaw agape, and find his true self. Or... he could get pissed and call them all out on the deception. Y'know her friends are in on it, so what does that say about their respect for Josh and Kimmy's marriage? For Josh? Then Kimmy could really come clean and admit everything and let the chips fall where they may, but it's my bet that won't happen until Josh says something about Devin's visit. Speculation!

DavidnDaria

That's what's fun about speculating like we do... nobody's wrong, ever! It's all in fun. We speculate. KT writes and blows us all out of the water. It's all good. :)

Chinookfan72

I don’t disagree with what you are saying as a likely outcome, however I don’t think it’s the only likely outcome. Josh is definitely going on a journey, wether it’s unenjoyable (hell) or not is to be determined. The same can be said for crashing down...The journey is going to have an end, but we don’t have any clue as to it being a happy or a miserable ending.

Tim ziegler

I just took a one person survey and I agree Josh needs to call his own lawyer!She and Taylor are lying manipulators!

DavidnDaria

LMAO! I didn't think of that!

RCH

Is it toast or possibly a bun in the toaster? It was there I had to use it.

DavidnDaria

Jordan, Most of the hell Josh is going to experience is likely going to be self-inflicted. It's self-inflicted because as both my wife and I see it, he's rationalizing everything. He's listening to Kim when he should be listening to what he knows as fact: The picture on the wall and the business card. That's why he's stopping things dead and wanting to be alone for a bit. The hardest thing to accept is a reality different from what a person believes. It's a shock. KT has brilliantly illustrated this. Will Josh eventually accept the new reality? Maybe. Right now, though this story looks to us like Kimmy simply wants to exclude Josh from that portion of her life. Neither Josh or Kimmy are good communicators with each other; they take the easy way out. For Josh, it's clinging to a reality that is vastly different from what is unfolding. For Kimmy, it's not being Josh's partner by lying. Sooner or later it's going to come crashing down for both them. Kimmy is preparing herself for a much softer landing than Josh. How they handle the coming Tuesday is going speak volumes for these characters. KT has done a masterful job in drawing us all in so.

DavidnDaria

LOL! You do great, James! Rock it out, bro!

JamesIsAsleep

DnD - reading comprehension can be a problem for me sometimes, i reread your post and yeah I agree with what you're saying!

KT Morrison

Thank you too, Wess—Happy New Year!

Chinookfan72

i think it’s 50/50 right now if Josh is going to go through hell.. I think it’s equally likely that he does have a fantasy about his wife sleeping with other men and will eventually stop caring if Kimmy is cheating on him and instead bask in her after sex guilt, while coming up with plans to watch... As for Josh loosing Kimmy, the only way I see that is if Josh isn’t into her cheating so he leaves once he finds out the truth.I’m not buying Kimmy running away with Devin (at least not yet).

Donkatsu

Wait a minute! Isn't it pretty obvious that Kimmy is one of the second generation of Carol's crew from HKG? Chances are, she know a thing or two about spinning a tale to a credulous dork like Josh, especially if there is tangible (measurable?) reward for her. With Cole now under the thumb of Maggie and Carol there is no need for Kimmy to ply her legal services at Martin's shop. The gal's gotta keep her skills sharp, you know. Happy 2020 to the club.

DavidnDaria

I don't think so, James. I just meant that it seems you and I think Josh is going to be hurtin' big time soon. He's already hurtin', but not as badly as he will hurt. I mean, his wife is cheating on him and lying, too. He doesn't want to admit it to himself, but his actions say his inner voice is telling him what's what. THIS is how good KT is. Both Daria and I feel for Josh. Kimmy after this chapter? Manipulative, lying bitch. KT, do you fantasize that you're one of the characters you write about? Just wondering. No need to answer... it just came out of nowhere. Gotta get ready to go out... y'all make your dreams real.

DavidnDaria

ECHO, Echo, echo... to everyone! Y'all have fun in 2020. Make your vision your reality!

JamesIsAsleep

Did something I say assume that I think Josh is doing ok? I think hes struggling too. Also, I think Devin put the card there. It was Kimmy's wit that justified why the card was there. It might make a good conversation though with Kimmy and Devin? "Why are you leaving evidence behind that you were ever over?" I could be remembering wrong.

Wess

Happy New Year KT! Thanks for this wonderful gift.

Wess

Next step. Kimmy works for Devin. Devin says she could have much more power to manipulate male lawyers if she were single - lose the ring Kimmy. Oh what a wicked descent. I love this stuff. If Kimmy works for Devin he will own her. Josh seems headed the way of Max and Harrison. I just hope he can at least get the final shot and some payback on Kimmy.

DavidnDaria

Isn't it cool that everyone is on the same page, now? (I mean, we, the readers.) Does anyone but James and me think that Josh is going to go through some real hell? Like losing his wife? Unless Josh steps up some--as in really digs in with Kimmy's story--Daria and I think he's toast. The toaster is loaded. Think about it... wanting to work for Devin. Putting the brakes on having a kid.... And at midnight something will hit Josh. How did Devin know his card was in the drawer?

TF

Oh yeah, forgot, having a kid with Josh would also complicate these plans.

TF

Re #3, Does Kimmy truly care for Josh? So far the only evidence that Kimmy cares for Josh is in her internal dialogue…her actions argue otherwise. Perhaps she is attracted to more than a big cock…big bucks, big office, first class to Hong Kong to make big deals. Josh says “We” (not I) can handle whatever it is but Kimmy just brushes him off and spins her lies. So maybe she doesn’t want to spill as it would interfere with her ambitions. Fend off Josh until she finds out what king of a big (!) deal she can swing with Devin. Then, if it doesn’t work out, Josh is her fall-back position. After all, she doesn’t know yet that Devin is feeding Josh what appears to be the truth. Just speculation on my part and it may change abruptly (lol).

RCH

Wow! This was a bit of a surprising end of the year! Liar, Liar pants on fire! Kimmy is going over to the dark side! Josh is heading up the big river in Egypt. I suspect Josh will start to question Kimmy's "truth" through her odd behavior and additional needling from Devin. This was her last time to come clean!

JamesIsAsleep

As Geoff would say, i really like being a dirty Jane Goodall and be a witness to moments like these. Rarely are we given the opportunity to have as direct a challenge to tell the truth in a KT Morrison story. We know a bit about what happened but not everything at the reunion, but we do know that Devin visited their apartment. So we get out our binoculars and notebooks and take notes on Kimmy and Josh in the wild, the bar of course, and ask the question, "What will Kimmy say?" The 'I love the thing that KT did' list: 1) Kimmy deciding to pacify her husband by making them go out 2) Kimmy contemplating working with Devin seriously. 3) Kimmy lying so gracefully and seamlessly even though she truly cares about Josh. 4) Kimmy becoming wishy washy about having kids.

TF

Wow, how wonderfully complicated KT spins this web of deceit. There is an “along” that should be “alone” near end of chapt 3.

DavidnDaria

Boy, does that Kimmy lie or what? Josh is in denial, Kimmy's a liar, and it looks like Devin is going to get a lawyer whether Josh likes it or not. Wonder what happens next Tuesday? "Kimmy, Devin told me he was here...." Will that happen?

Chinookfan72

i don’t believe Kimmy for a minute, but ultimately it doesn’t matter. At this point, I’m much more interested in where this story is going than what happened in the past. It seems to me Josh bought Kimmy’s story so I’m hoping there is room now to progress the story away from what happened at the reunion. I hope the next time we hear about the reunion is at the very end of the story, and I hope that is a long, long way off.

Tracey52

It’s Christmas kt. Don’t you guys do holidays but I love the output though . Kimmy is going t hell but wil love The trip. Josh is going to purgatory and may love it too


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