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Devil In The Waters, Book 5, Chapter 6 (complete)

🕑 Added 2020-05-29 00:00:03 +0000 UTC

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JedThompson

I hate it and I love it, and I think Josh is finding out he's feeling the same way. So much of Josh's story in this is him trying to deny what he really is feeling about everything.

Chinookfan72

For sure CSH, I think it’s difficult which ever way KT goes, but whatever way she chooses I’m sure KT can navigate the tricky waters. If Josh goes and Devlin is there then you need to come up with a way to get Devlin and Kimmy together for a period of time. The meeting works, but that is the exact same scenario as book 4 (business meeting that actually isn’t a meeting) so it would likely have to be something else. The only other option would be Josh and Kimmy go but Devlin not, and that seems like a detour for the story unless Kimmy’s meeting is actually crucial to the advancement of the story. Also if Devlin shows up is Josh more reassured? I suppose he might be if he doesn’t know Devlin is there (Kimmy lies to him), but then how is that any different than Kimmy telling Josh she is there alone (lying to him about Devlin tagging along) if Josh can’t go? Sure Josh is upset he can’t go, but he can’t blame Kimmy for it, she has nothing to do with his vacation schedule. At the end of the day his wife is still cheating on him and he has no idea it’s happening. The other option would be Josh is there and knows a Devlin is there and I’d imagine anytime Kimmy is out of his site he’ll be thinking she is running off with Devlin. In this case he’d have more control over Kimmy than if he didn’t go, but he’d still drive himself mental cause he always thinks the worst.

JedThompson

This is becoming one of my favorite series of yours KT, although I'll admit I think I feel that way every series I read 🤣, you're on a whole nother level in this genre.

JedThompson

I think that there was a bit of foreshadowing when Devlin let it be known he knows some of the higher ups that work in Josh's company. I suspect he is going to use his relationship with the VP of Josh's company to ensure Josh is not able to get Friday off work. Causing Josh to miss the trip, and Devlin to take his place.

JedThompson

Devlin bullying Josh behind Kimmy's back, and directing it at Josh would lead to several issues between him and Kimmy. First of all it would mean this entire thing that Kimmy thought she was getting away with, would be known to Josh in Kimmy's mind, even though to Josh he's still denying it to himself. Secondly, Kimmy cares about Josh still, and while she might find it hot to taunt/tease Josh with Devlin, in her mind it's ok because he's not in on it. Even though in some ways that does make it worse. I think she's of the mind it won't hurt him if he doesn't know. Also he already said he didn't tell Josh, so if it comes out he did that would be a direct lie to her that I'm sure Devlin wouldn't want her to know of.

Chinookfan72

i’m not even sure that poll is getting at what I’m hoping for. While I’d prefer this story to be more like six weeks where it’s more focused on just the wife than the husband and wife, we are 5 books in so at this point it’s not possible to do so. What I’m hoping for is really the internal monologues of both Kimmy and Josh to be toned down after the next book. My hope is with the remainder of this book and the trip, Kimmy finally admits to herself the affair is going to continue and Josh answers his question of wether he’s into Kimmy fucking someone else or not. There by creating more space in the story for a Josh and Kimmy to do more active things.. For instance take book 4. In the future, If Josh spies, I hope it doesn’t happen over 3 chapters because he’s fighting himself to for two of likewise the next time Devlin and Kimmy hook up after the trip I’m hoping doesn’t require as much finesse as say the conversation in the royal york did. Or when sh3 gets home from the royal york there are two big sections of internal monologues (one for both Kimmy and Josh) that going forward I hope reduced. I think most of this stuff is natural as the characters get more comfortable in their positions, I guess I’m just hoping they get comfortable sooner rather than later. Again, just to be clear I’m not complaining about the books that are written so far I think all those scenes where necessary to set the stage, and without them the story wouldn’t be as good. However, I think the stage has been effectively set at this point. To me there is so much world for these characters to explore and interact with, but with only 1600-2000 lines per book, the amount we get in each book is limited due to much of the books being so focused on Kimmy’s and Josh’s internal struggles that unless we get 20 volumes I’m not sure how KT is going to get to everything. I’d rather get a chapter of Josh and Karina or Josh, Meyer and Steve having a drink coming up with a way to catch Kimmy (if Josh decides he’s not into Kimmy fucking around) or a chapter with Josh and Devlin coming up with a way for Josh to be able to watch Devlin and Kimmy fuck without Kimmy knowing (if he decides that is what he wants), than say a chapter of Josh contemplating if Kimmy is cheating and how that makes him feel. Similarly with Kimmy I’d rather her go out with Hyun on a girls night and develop that relationship and confide in her rather than get another chapter about how she’s done with Devlin, or torn up inside afterwards etc. This is why I’m leaning towards Josh not going on the trip. It gives him time by himself to think the worst and hopefully that leads him to a decision. Similarly, without Josh in Cayman Kimmy is free to explore the relationship with Devlin deeper and when the trip is over she realizes she doesn’t want it to end.

JamesIsAsleep

For sure CSH, and that was the prevailing viewpoint from that poll, I'm not saying things need to be one way or the other aside from how I voted (which was a proxy vote for my general opinion about that concept, at least in that poll).

CSH

Long story short - I'm not against it on principle, it may be the hotter way to go. It definitely offers dark opportunities. Im just worried it will also be harder for KT to pull off as an author. It’s a challenge.

CSH

Don’t get me wrong, there are ways to make this happen that would really drive the story forward and take it to new peaks. Kimmy sadistically getting Josh to admit he’s excited by the idea of her going without him and taunting Josh for the next three nights about how she will go with Devlin and his big dick could get Josh in a frenzy by the time her trip happens. Maybe Josh will have a masochistic epiphany and decide to not ask for the day off and lie to her about it. Then the texting starts back up in the middle of the trip. She calls him and pretends to masturbate while Devlin fucks her. Josh would be in absolute agony by the end, of course. This being said, the danger in this path is to the narrative in this work of fiction. Its going to be really challenging to pull that off realistically and not have Josh and Kimmy become caricatures rather than characters. Intermittent reward does require some reward for Josh after all. Going on the trip gives Josh and Kimmy time together to reassure him she loves him. It stokes conflict in Josh about the situation and gives Kimmy a certain level of power over him while keeping them together. It’s more gradual than the dive in the deep end nature of him not going. This path leads to a sustained relationship and a more sustained story. By the way, one reason she might establish it as a plot point could be to give Josh something to agonize over for a couple of days and Kimmy to tease him over before the worst doesn’t happen. Having the worst happen every time would just make it predictable and ultimately detract from the enjoyability of the story, in my opinion.

CSH

Might Karina be secretly in love with Josh or does she just feel sorry for him? Josh ending up with her is a real possibility.

CSH

Yeah, I agree with Glaucon, plus, I think the texting might start up again and Devlin knows that and will be able to point to Amy as the culprit without having to deny it again. Somehow that it came up again leads me to believe it will restart.

CSH

Gotta be the one who disagrees here. For me the relationship between Kimmy and Josh and how it’s affected by Devlin is the heart of the story. Minimal inclusion of the husband would absolutely kill this story for me. I have zero interest in a cuckold story without a cuckold in it. To each his own.

Glaucon

In real life I do, but in specific kinds of fantasy erotic scenarios I enjoy it.

KT Morrison

I hear you!

Glaucon

It seems to me that Devlin does not want Kimmy to see him as Josh’s bully – for example, all the excuses he gives at dinner regarding the Rumble incident Josh describes, the way he shrugs off Josh’s characterization of Devlin as a bully, his insistence that he’s not the same person he was during high school. I think he recognized at that dinner this was something that might actually be an obstacle in the way between him and sex. Additionally, Devlin doesn’t want Kimmy to think he cares about Josh’s role in their affair – even though his words and actions in bed and out make it super clear that he does.

BNR

Is anyone else wondering if the contact that Kimmy needs to meet while her working vacation will be "involved" in any way with Kimmy and Josh getting closer to open cheater/cuckold status?

Tracey52

Why was Devlin so keen to clear his name regarding the texting?

JamesIsAsleep

Chinook - you're definitely not alone with regard to liking 'minimal inclusion' of the hubby, remember that poll way back's 2nd place voting was 'Josh in the dark' about Kimmy and Devlin's goings on.

Chinookfan72

so Devlin is Fletch, only his erection is his afro?

Chinookfan72

personally I was really happy to see the interaction with Kimmy and Devlin in the first part of the chapter. KT’s note on her website saying we are wrapping up book 5 over here had me worried as there wasn’t enough time in this book it fit in a sexual encounter between Devlin and Kimmy. However Kimmy’s line of “you tell me”, I found to be very telling as Kimmy seems to be more than keen on another roll in the hay (and she wants to Devlin to maintain control, and therefore she wants to stay submissive to Devlin). Obviously her willingness means the next encounter can be more casual than the last and won’t need multiple chapters of build up before hand so there can still be room in this book for an encounter yet. Either way, my big hope in this book, and the next ( assuming the trip is the next book) is Kimmy retires her one and done routine, and Josh decide one way or another how he feels about Kimmy sleeping with other people (regardless of his decision it doesn’t mean we are any closer to a resolution for the story), but hopefully it’ll cut down on the need to check with Kimmy and Josh all the time and allow Kimmy to explore her affair more.. While I think it was necessary for the books up until now (and through the trip) to focus on these aspects to make the situation seem real, I don’t think those are necessary moving forward.. Then again I’m always looking for stories with minimal inclusion of the husband anyway so I might be the only one that feels this way.

Chinookfan72

Wether or not Josh goes, I have no doubt Devlin will be there.. The trip isn’t going to be a quick couple chapters, it’s likely to be the main focal point of the entire next book. This is a story about a cheating wife, thus the man she is cheating with needs to be in the story. As for Josh, I don’t see why KT would establish the point multiple times about how Josh should be able to get the time off if he is able to go (once is more than sufficient unless it needs to be baked into our brains.) Since she has, my intuition is saying he is going to get held up. Sure it can play out as CSH has suggested, however I think it would be better if Kimmy teases him and then Josh can’t go. If he can’t go Kimmy doesn’t have to tell him Devlin is there. Kimmy has lied to him on multiple occasions so there is no reason to assume she wouldn’t be able to do it again. Even better though would be if she tells him the truth that Devlin surprised her and is coming along. This way Josh isn’t reassured, but at the same time, what can Josh do about it? it’s not Kimmy’s fault he couldn’t go and Devlin is, and just because Devlin is going doesn’t mean he now has proof they are fucking. Instead he gets to picture the worst for an entire three day weekend not knowing anything. As someone who is looking for this story to get darker this seems like a simple solution to that problem. Furthermore, Josh needs to decide wether he actually does like the idea of Kimmy sleeping around on him or not, and what better way to come to a conclusion than having three days in Canada while your wife is in the Caribbean with the man you think she is fucking.

RCH

VN "You tell me when" does say it all! Kimmy is going to get a fresh batch of little Devlins before the week is out!

Tim ziegler

It’s just me but I really hate shity people doing shity things to people they care about.

VN

“You tell me when....” - tells me all

Wess

Love these characters! I was kind of hoping Karina and Josh might feel something more sexual. Still looking for a soft landing for our hapless hero. I also hope he doesnt go the way of the traditional cuck and just accept/embrace his fate.

CSH

Can really see her taunting Josh about maybe going with Devlin, then actually going with Josh only to meet Devlin secretly on Saturday. I like the idea of her teasing him about the possibility that Devlin will take her to build up his insecurity while getting him wound up about the idea. Actually going with Josh would reassure him it’s all fantasy and then she secretly betrays him with Devlin on the island. Also looks like she’ll be active in setting up the meets from now on. Josh is in real trouble.

JamesIsAsleep

Devlin is six-four laying down, that's what Kimmy meant. 😛

Glaucon

Just FYI, you list Devlin at six-foot-two in chapter one of book one, and here at six-four (unless that’s an intentional mistake by Kimmy, making him bigger in her own head).

JamesIsAsleep

First of all ... this is fire! Looks like theres a little more credence to Amy as the texter, watch this is a double fakeout and it is actually Devlin, lol. It also means that Kimmy was right about Devlin as the texter, which might help shoot down future paranoia on the part of Josh, "Yeah, well you thought Devlin was texting you and that wasnt true, so ..." Love Kimmy's mind wandering thinking about rolling in the sand with Devlin ... superb. Devlin really laid it out for Kimmy, he sounds like hes willing to be patient with her right now, that has to ruin Kimmy's panties even more. Also love the talk between Josh and friends, the dialogue is KT quality. Kind of hoping something comes up at Swanson that requires Josh's attention. Maybe Devlin can pull some strings to make that happen? lol. Is there anything stopping Devlin from taking a separate trip on the down low even if Josh and Kimmy go together? We will find out!!

CSH

Excellent. Can see how this got away from you into two chapters. This was a good place to break, I think. I’m really enjoying the buildup. And so much for one and done, that didn’t take long, did it.


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