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Devil in the Waters, Book 8, Chapter 16

🕑 Added 2021-11-16 01:00:04 +0000 UTC

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RCH

Cold as a witch's ...

Mike Monroe

She is a nasty girl..that is true and I understand the growing need I a person life ..especially not just settling on the 1st person you date..Life is about experience..aids in making choices good or bad. Maggie really bothered me as she just let Cole assume this was all Max doing...He could have lived without the whole testing the water situation. Kimmy is just vile for the whole cheating aspect...Which Maggie would have done as well..If Max didn't hide in closet to bust her. The Cheating and then manipulations she has done to cover it up is vile. Using her husband potential kink to help her get away with it...makes her the Wicked Witch of the North!!

RCH

Sorry, I still can't blame Maggie as much as Kimmy. But I have to apologize for my bad memory of Max/Maggie details. Where I find the difference is Kimmy's case is she is in a committed relationship and violated a trust. Maggie started questioning her readiness to life time with Max. This is why there is such a higher divorce rate in the "Bible Belt" her in the US. All these good Christians fearing sin and sex before marriage etc. get married right out of high school or collage before they have grown up and matured. That's my core reason I don't bag on Maggie too much. Kimmy and Josh maybe an example of the above minus the "Bible Belt" excuse. They still got married soon after or during university. They hadn't settled yet. Kimmy has gone through a metamorphosis she is different from when the story started. There is a bit of a whole in what we know about Kimmy's past. As I remember neither Kimmy or Josh came to the marriage virgins. Is there something significant in that to the story? Don't know! Don't hate Kimmy she is just a nasty girl!!!

Mike Monroe

Great...Grand Wicked Witch of the North...what a Universe!! Winter is coming!!!

Mike Monroe

Lol!!! Hate Kimmy and Maggie both horrible but that is what we are here for...KT has written them both beautifully!

KT Morrison

They exist in the same universe. And Kimmy would be 'of the North.'

Tracey52

So how do you really feel Mike?

BNR

also: Zhang Jingchu, Fan Bingbing, Ha Nui Lee, Jamie Chung, Victoria Song, Gemma Chan (of course), and although she might be a bit too curvy, Brenda Song. Brenda is my favorite though I know she isn't ideally the right body type, she just has the body I like the most!

BNR

Well, if we are using our time machines... Bai Ling - from The Crow. I've always crushed on her!

Donkatsu

Found her: "Volunteers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD3OuArz56g&list=RDkre-xcveGTY&start_radio=1&rv=kre-xcveGTY. Start at 3 min 40 sec. And the special effects guys can de-age Tom Hanks to play Josh.

Mike Monroe

Devlin or Cole same BDE crappy guys who causes our Hero to lose the women they love...Cole worst because this is supposed to be your best friend ..never will forgive his character for that and can't see how Max could be around him...he should be in ground as well as Maggie and Max behind bars or at least in a coma...

Mike Monroe

She still on the level with Kimmy ..she dragged Max though hell..and to also include Cole his best friend...the DEVIL her self ...wicked witch of the east...She started the ball rolling not Max..He supported she was going to cheat ...and she was with Jay...with or without Max approval.

Mike Monroe

Maggie took that action herself...Max didn't set that up..Maggie was going to cheat with Jay..whether Max was there or not...she start that ..Max didn't...he foolishly tried to support her since she was not experienced...The whole thing with Cole ..she started..Max had gone up to her house to get beers...he come back and she is making out with Cole and then gives him a BJ...not Max doing there ..which still make Maggie on the same level as Kimmy both out of control!

RCH

I have to defend Maggie a bit. What happened there is she fell in love with another person after her boy friend introduced and encouraged them to hookup. She just got show someone better. I don't mean dick size but stronger emotional support. Max was weak and unsure of himself. He needed to mature some.

Tim ziegler

What Maggie did is nothing compared to what Kimmy’s doing to the person she supposedly loves.

Mike Monroe

Question does Maggie and Kimmy exist in same universe or is it a multiverse thing . Is it Wicked witch of east (Maggie Northeast-Boston) Wicked Witch of the West(Kimmy California Area)

Mike Monroe

2nd that motion!!! By far the wicked witch of the west..Undisputed Champ of the KT Universe...Question does Maggie and Kimmy exist in same universe or is it a multiverse. its it Wicked witch of east (Maggie Northeast-Boston) Wicked Witch of the West(Kimmy California Area)

Mike Monroe

Maybe..or husband will be getting on side with his boss ..fare is fare..but separation is possible as well.

BNR

I think Elodie Yung has the perfect look, though I hate to be ageist as I'm over 40, she might be too old at 40. How old is/was Kimmy supposed to be anyways?

Tim ziegler

Of all the Wicked Witch’s KT has written about,Kimmy is definitely the worst!

KT Morrison

I love it, ha ha!

JamesIsAsleep

I really feel like, without knowing how the story went in the novel, 'Sex/Life' is probably going to be going this route in season 2.

RCH

All joking aside Netflix should make this into a movie/mini series. With all the positive LGBT... Netflix has in its programing why not represent the cuckold/hotwife/sharing culture too? "Devil in the Waters" is a good title.

RCH

Meng'er Zhang Nope Boobs are too big! Elodie Yung Yes, she would work like the serious look perfect for lawyer Kimmy! Unfortunately Joan Crawford is dead but she would be perfect! I don't know how josh would feel about having his balls kept in a jar!

JamesIsAsleep

Lol

BNR

He said, “And I think this is just the beginning.” (in Book Eight!!!) XD

BNR

Elodie Yung from the Netflix Daredevil series. She played Elektra Natchios (My OG pick!)

Mike Monroe

No more WIre HANGER EVER!!!!!

Donkatsu

How about Joan Crawford?

Mike Monroe

Yeah ..that is all good ..and I get it but I feel there is the psychological trauma aspect you meantion going on as well...It is a lingering thing ..that Kimmy is exploiting to the highest degree...to achieve her overall ultimate prize her cake and eat it too!!! Despite what effect it has on Josh...and I am here for it too..but hate to love it!

JamesIsAsleep

The thing is though, Josh has legitimate erections based on the concept of Kimmy and Devlin being together, that's the reptile brain, that's deep psychology. It's really hard to manipulate someone's mind at that level of psychology to get someone turned on sexually to whatever someone else wants you to be turned on by. Unless we're talking about trauma which is a can of worms that is not an one that KT would open, Josh is unfortunately finding out through a cruel twist of fate that he is, in fact, a cuckold. Cruel because these are shitty circumstances for his character to find this out about himself. To be more detailed on what I think is holding Josh back from seeing what is going on, here are all the factors. Josh is dealing with what it means to him that he feels this way about his wife potentially messing around on him and being turned on by it, battling his own desire to remain trusting of his heretofore trustworthy wife, accepting the circumstances that keep Devlin and Kimmy near each other for legitimate reasons (i.e. her job), the reality that (in Josh's mind) it was Josh that introduced Kimmy to idea of possibly sleeping with Devlin by integrating it in more and more into their sex lives, which could explain Kimmy's growing fascination independent of Josh's fantasies from his perspective, and an Oscar winning performance by Kimmy throughout this soap opera of events. You put that all together and also understand that Josh doesn't have the benefit of knowing the truth of what's happening like we all do who can see what Kimmy is doing, and you got yourself a patented KT mind fuck. It's what I paid for I tell ya what 😃.

Mike Monroe

Meng'er Zhang ..just saw Marvel Shang Chi...she plays his sister ..I think would be good for it.

RCH

There's only one problem with this being made into a movie. Who is a good enough actress to play Kimmy? Wow, she is good!

Mike Monroe

I like your view of the tragedy though...Kimmy will forever be the Devil to me because ..when all is said and done ..this is for her..no one else...selfish to the end!

Mike Monroe

Was this his fetish??? From the beginning he has been manipulated to think this is what he is into...Here is a man . Who has PTSD because of the billing Devlin inflicted on him when they were in HS...He and his real friend know this happened but his wife has manipulated his whole experience to saying it didn't happen...stop wining about it...Hey you really like what happen to you because you Bully has a Big Dick and you think about it..also..you really want me to fuck him because that way you will get over it...and see once you do that you will be free and love it...I am doing for you...I have your back always...You are so brave ..l am believe you didn't go through what you did...think of me ...I am doing everything for you .I will screw Your bully for us...to help you ..because I love you...just believe me it's for us....Sorry but dumb in my opinion..way to trusting .. especially when their are so many red flags flashing in his face! Like Anakin Skywalker... manipulated by someone he loved and.trusted and Poof..he was destroyed.

JamesIsAsleep

I don't think it's fair to say that Josh is dumb here, he has been grappling with the awakening of this growing fetish and how it does or does not fit in his life with Kimmy from the beginning. Kimmy for her part has done an outstanding job of covering her tracks and using the legitimate need to be around Devlin for her job as an alibi. Evidence might point to trouble, but there's been plenty for Josh to doubt that Kimmy would actually cheat on him. I think the biggest problem for Josh is that he feels guilt about his fetish. That guilt plays tricks on his mind, the idea of cheating on him with Devlin, is that a sick manipulation because of Amy's texting? Have I (Josh asks himself) always wanted this? He is having a hard time coming to grips with everything thats happened in part because he still doesnt quite trust his own thoughts. In the latest version of this, "has my own fetish, mental machinations, teasing with Kimmy made her do this with Devlin and now she might like it? What have I done!?!" It's brilliant

Mike Monroe

If Josh was a Disney character he be Goofy....He is so trusting..makes me want to scream!!!... Humiliation is a lesson...Yes a lesson of stupidity!!! For him to be a smart business man ..He is so dumb...I really hope he at very least hears the rest of that recording...Kimmy is the Devil and Devlin is Damien Omen...Great writing KT..more manipulation to making Josh believe this is for you..and now should we tell him about our game..Show him we are Kinky...like Josh I want to throw up...from his stupidity and far to trusting personality. He is like her Dog!

JamesIsAsleep

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