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DITW 11-13: Steam

🕑 Added 2023-09-14 03:03:16 +0000 UTC

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Pete

I'm not sure if the "nightmare scenario" is a sexy outcome, or not. I think many of these are very sad outcomes. I'd rather see the story take a "happy ending" turn...one where all the characters get what they want. Josh gets a life in which he's more explicitly bullied by Devlin, and humiliated by Kimmy. Kimmy gets to continue seeing her hung lover, and now has a husband who openly accepts that he enjoys being dominated and humiliated. Devlin gets to continue sleeping with Kimmie. The only obstacle to this outcome is Josh. Can he learn to accept that he wants to be cuckolded and humiliated by Kimmy and Devlin, and have the courage to ask for it?

Kat

CSH- I could see Meyer first mentioning something to Hyun about it. Josh told him that Kimmy cheated on him, and had Meyer follow her. If he finds out about Aunt Kimmy hanging around with Hyun, he might ask her if everything is okay with Kimmy. The longer Josh goes down the path he’s on, the harder it will be for him to come back from it. As you said in another post, Kimmy is grinding him into powder. Soon there won’t be much of Josh left.

Kat

You really bring up some good points about this genre, and how different this story is from many others. KT’s work really stands above all the others, especially with this one.

L_S87

The "a" option for #1 feels kind of obvious, whether in the open or cheating behind Josh's back as she's been doing for the last couple of months. I dont think there's any scenario where she marries or gets with Devlin. Could be wrong, but I just don't think she sees him that way. "Friends" (not really) with benefits when the urge strikes her, sure, but nothing more than that. Assuming Josh leaves. Her attraction to Devlin is too wrapped up in how cheating on Josh makes her feel for it to morph into a scenario where she cuts Josh loose because she prefers Devlin in all ways. Humiliating Josh by being with Devlin and making it clear she prefers sex with him, oh yes, but I don't really think she intends to break Josh by walking away. She could break Josh so badly through other means, though, that he walks away and she's left with nothing because she wouldn't know moderation if it bit her in the ass.

L_S87

Yeah, I think you're right, because Hyun doesn't know enough to divulge something to Josh that would be earth shattering. It could potentially cause a knock down drag out between Kimmy and Josh if he were to find out the details of all her lies in the last couple chapters, but I don't know if it would go far enough for a full split. Ultimately, the only people with enough info to cause Josh to leave are Kimmy, Devlin and Amy. The first two have no interest in that happening, though I could see potential in Devlin screwing up while indulging is bully kink and dropping an inadvertent bomb. The real wild card is Amy.

Wess

Hmmm, I think door number 2. Josh stays married knowing the child is Devlin’s and Kimmy continues to develop her relationship with Devlin. Eventually Kimmy leaves Josh.

CSH

Just to prove I have nothing better to do, I give you: Possibilities - Which one of these is the nightmare scenario? 1. Josh is the biological father A. Josh believes the baby is his. 1. They stay married a. she still cucks him b. she stops cucking him 2. They get divorced. a. She gets with Devlin b. She gets with someone else or stays single. B. Josh believes the baby is Devlin’s 1. They stay married a. she still cucks him b. she stops cucking him 2. They get divorced. a. She gets with Devlin b. She gets with someone else or stays single. 2. Devlin is the biological father. A. Josh believes the baby is his. 1. They stay married a. she still cucks him b. she stops cucking him 2. They get divorced. a. She gets with Devlin b. She gets with someone else or stays single. B. Josh believes the baby is Devlin’s 1. They stay married a. she still cucks him b. she stops cucking him 2. They get divorced. a. She gets with Devlin b. She gets with someone else or stays single.

CSH

I agree and don’t like the Kimmy pics. I think she’s too thin. She looks mean. Maybe it’s who she is becoming.

CSH

And we have a winner! Yes that conversation between Meyer and Hyun could indeed bring down the house of cards. But I’m gonna posit that even if it did Kimmy could get Josh to accept it.

CSH

Does that part become overwhelmed when the awfulness gets, well... too awful? - And that is the point where most books in this genre go wrong. Either the couple just “agree it’s all okay and done lovingly” and everything is supposedly mutual. Or the husband just doesn’t have a limit at all and he just becomes a caricature. Here we get a male character who seems genuinely tortured by his own obsession - whose intellectual limit is reached - but who can’t refuse just one more hit of his drug - and whose wife is exploiting it for her own gratification. He’s trying desperately to remain “normal” because he can see where he is headed but he has gotten addicted to the pain she is causing him. Josh is working hard at eroticising all that betrayal. And she is as addicted as him. When does the drug addict stop using? But what’s left of Josh at the end? One thing the series is communicating is that there are consequences of this behavior on the personalities of the couple. Kimmy is slowly grinding him into powder. But she’s transforming herself as well.

Wess

Yes except he likes being humiliated.

L_S87

100% Right about the pain and betrayal bit. The difference for this story being the depth of the latter and how much Josh's kink overwhelms the former to create a sort of balance that allows him to rationalize and compartmentalize everything. Being an erotic story, there's nothing here requiring this to be "realistic", I just wonder how likely it is for Kimmy to keep dodging bullets with lies and Josh to keep finding reasons for acceptance every time a new bit of info turns up that shows how awful she's been. Granted, a part of him *loves* that awfulness and dominance, but only a part. Does that part become overwhelmed when the awfulness gets, well... too awful? What does Josh do if/when that happens? Can't wait for the next book to find out!

L_S87

That's an interesting thought. I doubt Hyun would bring up anything regarding her conversation with Kimmy as she loves her and would think it's a betrayal of trust. But. I could see Meyer asking in an offhand way if Hyun knows what's up with Kimmy, since they're friends, and let slip that Josh asked him to spy because he thinks Kimmy is cheating. Which of course would have Hyun wondering why he would ask such a thing if Kimmy is telling the truth about Josh "knows" and "wants" this. Kimmy telling the truth... LOL How Hyun would approach that disclosure and what she does with it would be intriguing

L_S87

Yeah, well, the truth hurts! Not that Kimmy even knows what that word means anymore...

Kat

I wish Hyun and Meyer would compare notes on Josh and Kimmy’s stories. Might be interesting. 🤔

L.

Don’t say that about my Kimmy!! ❤️❤️❤️😁

L.

I was going to post on this bit as well. The “Sunrise” bit. But I echo what CSH and L_S87 posted is perfect. But isn’t this kink all about eroticizing the pain and betrayal? That’s why many of us are here, reading KTs classics? And key, from L_S87: “All this hinges on Josh's kinks allowing the truth to be overwhelmed by Kimmy's gaslighting. The question is, when do the truths become big enough that no amount of kink overwhelms it?” Wow AF.

L_S87

I love you sin list. Mostly agree with how you divvied it up, too. Also agree that KT has given us a bit of a window into how things are probably going to progress, at least as far as Kimmy is concerned. Kimmy's plan for Josh and Hyun seems fairly obvious at this point. The open questions are how Josh responds and what roles Devlin and Amy play in this process. Kimmy has told so many lies to this point that she's in a rather precarious position of having to rely on a lot of luck that nothing sabotages her plans. Hell, all it would take is a certain realtor walking up to Kimmy while Josh is nearby and asking "How do you and Devlin like your apartment? Is the bed still nice?" I still believe that there is a reason KT has been incessantly pounding the "this is all my fault" drum for Josh, chapter after chapter. What happens when he realizes it isn't?

L.

“ No. It feels unfair to say that. He’s so kind and he loves me. But, shoot, you’re not wrong. It’s got to the point now whenever I see either of them I’m wondering what they want from me next.” Hyun still rubbed her back, sitting quiet for a moment before saying under her breath, “I still can’t believe this.” “We’re not like this, Hyun. I don’t know how this came to be.” “That’s why I can’t believe it. And you go to work every day and see this guy? And Josh doesn’t stop you?” “No, he just wants to know everything that happened.”. Amazing betrayal of Josh by Kimmy.

Wess

Kinda strange, but for me the latest pics of Kimmy just add to her coldness. Even a little scary. Josh alone in his car using her panties to pleasure himself is sad. Looking forward to a new direction soon. Of course I get a thrill every time KT submits a new post. Something about her style. Speaking of that, how hot is her picture?!

Tim ziegler

Kimmy’s a selfish bitch!

Donkatsu

I think KT has given us some clarity as to where this could be headed, especially in terms of who is doing what to whom. Can we sum this up in a way to makes clear the allocation of sin among the three principals. Please feel free to comment or change these recommendations (and excuse the formatting glitches; the x go into the col under the names: Let us review the attribution of sin: Circle of Hell -Defining Sin Josh Devlin Kimmy 1 Limbo x 2 Lust x x x 3 Gluttony x 4 Avarice & Prodigality x x 5 Wrath & Sullenness x x 6 Heresy 7 Violence x 8 Fraud x x 9 Treachery x x Josh is mostly on the lesser circles, and the degree of his sin is generally low in each category. If I could use bold and bigger text I would show how high Devlin and Kimmy score especially "well", particularly in the lower circles of Hell. And then, there's Pride. Only room for one on this perch, the one who said: "I don’t see him that way. I’m . . . I’m more important than he is." One final comment: gaslighting is a particularly apt term to describe Kimmy's verbiage, given where she sits while spewing it.

CSH

I don’t detest her as much but think you got some points exactly right. She lies to herself about how she feels about Josh and Devlin and all that’s happening.

Chinookfan72

I’d highly recommend. It’s a 5 book series book 1 and 2 are stetting the table for the last three so the first couple books are light on action but it builds to the end.

Andrew Mellein

I agree with you. It’s just preferences! I do like cheating wife stories! Should I give that story by Andrea Martin a shot?

Andrew Mellein

KT does write real life and fiction well! That why I’m a fan over of her stories compared to other erotica authors. Would you say this story is darker than the Reza and Losing his Wife series? Reza is darker in its own way but there looks like their might be light at the end of that tunnel for that compared to Ditw!

L_S87

KT has said this sets up as a no one wins scenario. That could mean a lot of things though. The obvious punishment for Kimmy is not being allowed to keep the one thing she keeps insisting she wants the most, Josh. But, i could also see a scenario where Josh is her husband, but she's boiled him so bad that he's only a shell of his former self. She's lost all the respect, love and support she wanted from her marriage, it's all her fault and that realization is crushing. In either scenario, I keep feeling like Hyun may have a part to play. When the whole "Hyun loves Kimmy" thing became apparent multiple books ago, I thought then, what if that's who Kimmy ends up with by default because she's destroyed everything else? I don't know how likely that is, but her manipulation of Hyun to get her onside is certainly intriguing in its possibilities.

L_S87

Yeah, because every other time he's gotten mad, how has she solved it? By sexualizing it. Reminds me of Gilbert Gottfried from Beverly Hills Cop 2. "Is there something I have in this office that I could hand to you that would make you forget about those tickets in your hand." Except Kimmy is handing him an erotic "possibility" as a game of "what if" that would distract him from the awfulness of the truth. And if later it turns out to not be just a "possibility", well... look how you reacted to it when I brought it up in "fun". How could you possibly be mad at me given that? You're such a hypocrite, Josh! Not sure how that plays out with everything else, though. All this hinges on Josh's kinks allowing the truth to be overwhelmed by Kimmy's gaslighting. The question is, when do the truths become big enough that no amount of kink overwhelms it?

Kat

I love Summer Swap, and Keely, too. That’s not to say that I don’t love DITW, but I’m still holding out some hope for some consequences for Kimmy. I know there’s no way that there’ll be a HEV here, but I just want to see Kimmy pay something, she’s just so evil.

Kat

Kimmy keeps finding worse ways to demean her husband who she claims is also her best friend. None of what she told Hyun is true. She’s now gaslighted another innocent victim. She can’t possibly love Josh. I’ve said it before, but Kimmy doesn’t truly hate Devlin. He turns her on in more ways than just sexually. She’s talking about him here like a teenage girl fawning over her crush, not as a cheating, immoral wife who is probably pregnant with her husbands bully’s baby. Then she really states her true feelings. “But she still couldn’t get it out of her mind. And in her newfound dark and complicated complexion she couldn’t halt the runaway erotic thrill of bearing the offspring of a man she hated. Even thinking of it now, of having Devlin’s little boy in her belly, made her thighs flex.” She wouldn’t be heartbroken at all to have Devlin’s baby. Her thoughts at the end also tie into this. I think she’s thinking about how she can turn this pregnancy all into an erotic thrill for Josh. All she has to do is emasculate him some more, so he stays with her and helps raise Devlin ‘s baby. He gets off being humiliated, but the real truth is that Kimmy really gets off humiliating and dominating him, more than she does being with Devlin. The baby being Devlin’s will turn everyone on. Gross. Poor baby. Maybe Hyun or Meyer can get custody, because none of these three potential parents should be allowed anywhere near a small child. Losing Josh won’t be losing her true love, best friend. It means losing the source of her kink. She told Josh she got off humiliating him. In an earlier chapter, I think Chapter 8, she said to herself that being with Devlin wouldn’t be as much of a charge if Josh wasn’t also involved. I didn’t think I could detest Kimmy more, and then I read this chapter. Lol I keep trying to give her a chance to show some sort of decency or shame, but she’s incapable. Was she always this detestable? I see why it’s been so hard for you, KT! Your writing brings out so much real emotion. It’s amazing.

Chinookfan72

I get where you are coming from and a lot of this is just personal preference. Though the affair series I brought up has plenty of emotional consequences and is believable enough. Its just all from the wive/girlfriend perspective which I prefer because that is the pov I am most interested in in these types of stories. By eliminating the husband/boyfriend pov there is more room for interactions between the wife/girlfriend and the bull (both sexual and non). I also prefer a cheating wife story to a hotwife story.

CSH

I get the sense that Kimmy had a really evil thought there at the end. “something just appeared on her horizon like a glowing sunrise, the dawning of the most incredible idea.” Then cut to Josh beating off in the car. The real answer about how Josh would react to the idea that it might be Devlin’s baby - he would eroticize it ( with a little help from Kimmy no doubt).

L_S87

It's funny you mention the real life vs erotic story comparison. Thats such a fine line to ride that KT handles really well. Which makes you wonder, where does that line lay for this story? Believable disaster? Unbelievable harmony? Somewhere in between? I know what I hoped for the story died a while ago (not a dig at you, KT! Just me being a romantic sap) which is why I, along with so many others, aren't really sure where this is headed. Summer Swap (I'm not so patiently waiting on that, KT, hint hint) is predictable in that it will be fun and intriguing with a bit of emotional angst for spice, though not predictable in how that fun happens. DITW is a rollercoaster where the end is shrouded in fog. Slow down for a stop before you get off or is the track missing up ahead, crash and burn?

Andrew Mellein

She got some unresolved internalized issues! Kimmy needs therapy and if the baby is Josh’s they both need marriage counseling! But this is a erotic story not real life🤣🤣

L_S87

I think I get why KT found this so difficult and disagreeable to write. The amount of moral turpitude on display from Kimmy to weave this fabrication of a story for the sole purpose of gaining a sympathetic echo chamber in Hyun is detestable. I can't imagine how hard it must be to envision a person capable of this type of emotional and mental manipulation and yet still find a way to make her come across as vulnerable because her vile actions have painted her in a corner that doesn't really have a viable exit strategy without pain and suffering. Well done, KT. Kimmy is your best, and yet most heinous, character you've ever devised. She's easy to hate, yet improbably makes you feel sorry for her and wish she could find a way to repent and resolve this without a disaster. And then you realize she doesn't want to repent and that's why she's here with Hyun. She's the epitome of the word "onerous".

Andrew Mellein

Sounds a bit like a Peter G Johnson story I was reading a day ago. But it was multiple guys with the hot wife. Where the husband secretly watches as he’s degraded by the wife and her black lovers🤣🤣🤣I personally like KTs stories better because they seem more realistic due to the dialogue. And they have emotional consequences for the characters . And the actions of the characters don’t feel recycled.

Andrew Mellein

Great chapter KT! I don’t know where things are going but I bet it’s going to be hot 🥵. I think possibilities could be Hyun telling Meyer who tells Josh Kimmys deeds, a scorching hot threesome with Kimmy, Hyun, and Devlin while Josh embracing his inner cuck watches, The baby being Devlin’s etc. Things that got to me in this chapter were Kimmy secretly being excited that the baby is Devlins! Kimmy is always saying she hates Devlin but she lies to herself as much as she lies to other people and she enjoys fucking him and being in his company. So great chapter KT ! Can’t wait for chapter 14! Would you ever consider writing a cheating/hotwife thriller? Where the studly bull would seduce the wife/ young mother as revenge against the husband! I guess I have all these ideas in my head🤣🤣🤣

L_S87

The bed of lies grows thicker, just to gain Hyun's acceptance. What's really important here is all the things Kimmy ISN'T saying. She's literally told a story where *none* of this is her fault or her decision. It's all Josh's fault for his dirty kinks and what he wants from her and all Devlin's fault. Never telling Hyun the actual truth. Talk about bullshit revisionist history. I find it funny that every time Hyun asked a really important question, one that would steer towards Kimmy's evil nature, she wouldn't answer the question. She just defaults to silence or deflection. Hyun brought up the most important question though, what would Josh do? Her face tells the story, and so does Kimmy's reaction. Thinking of Meyer and what he chose to do at Hyun's revelation. And yes, Josh, you're in trouble. You're in trouble because your fantasy that has you masturbating in your car is fabricated on a bed, no a mountain, of lies and your demon wife (glad he at least admits that's what she is) just told her friend "everything" (HA!, as if she even got close to that) that's happened is all your fault. Didn't once admit any of her kinks or her decisions made that led up to this. Only sort of admitted she's had sex with Devlin in a roundabout way to ensure Hyun isn't judgemental and is supportive as possible. No, Josh, "we're" not in trouble. YOU'RE in trouble. I wonder how Josh reacts when the illusion is finally shattered?

Chinookfan72

Like the other two have said no clue where this actually going. Would have actually liked to see this story stay a cheating wife story a la the Affair series by Andrea Martin that came out this year, but the cat is out of the bag so now I’m hoping for a quick acceptance from Josh of being a cuck and then a few books of Kimmy riding Devlin’s dick all over the Toronto Metro area (including sharing Devlin with Hyun at least once in Hyun’s apartment to make Josh’s vision here true, and maybe one visit to Cayman with Just Devlin and Josh can be on the phone listening to Devlin and Kimmy fuck while they degrade him.) But I don’t think this is actually what will happen.

Wess

I feel like we're getting closer to our destination. I just have no clue where that is.

Tracey52

Still don’t know where this is going.


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