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DITW 12-12: Beata Beatrix

🕑 Added 2023-12-24 15:04:34 +0000 UTC

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Pete

"Her cruelty, when she wielded it against him, was done for his affection, for his pleasure; but also to establish a new role in their marriage." Great observation by Josh. He acknowledges that Kimmy is establishing a new role for herself in their marriage. And thereby, a new role for himself as well.

Bill F Protagoras

Also wouldn't it just be like Devlin to revel in the thought of people stretching themselves on their very own knock off of his greatest achievement!

Bill F Protagoras

Devlin just lets his mouth run and lets it out... they all need the other... whoever had Josh wear the offending flowery underwear might chuckle now at Stone's gymslip... he admits his need of Josh... Adolescence, you can't leave it behind... well some people can't...

Bill F Protagoras

“This little thing has caused so much trouble. This little thing has made our lives so difficult.” What terrible belief hiding in Kimmy's skull made her spew this rotten accusation at that time at that Josh? With her newfound deeper admiration and friendship for Hyun has she relegated Josh to a lower rank in her heart... a nuisance and an obligation...

Bill F Protagoras

Been under the weather... but managed to re-read the story up to date... So have been composing worst case scenarios without much hope... 'cause it's making only the shyest of appearances recently...

Bill F Protagoras

Is Evil Kimmy going to demean herself with an abject show of her fealty to Mammon? Is she going to pay lip service to his fiendish venal delights? Is the man she loved... the man she has inadvertently made into her creature, going to see her as she fears she is... behind the borrowed Satanic Majesty? How many light years is she from home? What will she be when her Josh recognises how abjectly her abasement has her stoop for someone who turns his stomach and reviles his reason...

Bill F Protagoras

What is Amy's bitter secret?

Bill F Protagoras

There's also learning the hard way... often the privilege of those who least appreciate it... No one has fought harder for victory from defeat than Josh wrestling to pin down the duplicitous angel inside the demon that the Devlin has smuggled inside the Waters' home... all along he's known the overgrown bully's sick obsession with himself while his faithless wife turned a hypocritical self serving blind eye... her master's rival the sleekit timorous one... that causes a tremor in his big cowering evil hairy breast... the sly warrior in the wooden horse... the hapless wanderer favourite of Athena whose wife is besieged by profligate suitors ruining his home... can he, a helpless beggar, lead a last ditch Hail Mary to relieve the starving citadel... to reveal the fata morgan that once was HIS wife's heart and 'his' heart too? Is seeing believing... is Devlin a Water's doppelganger wilfully blinded by self hatred? His persona not just orbiting his ithyphallic totem but occulted by it... behind it?

Bill F Protagoras

Kimmy's hubris is like a repeat cycle in her psyche she thinks its work is done but then it's back again... her strength is beautiful as a ranked phalanx with a pushing tactic assimilated from the enemy trying to pierce a Josh or a Hyun by a combination of force and stamina worthy of a boss... maybe she needs the tactics of an Iron Duke not the loyalty and dash of an Emperor's Marshals... or even to fight the little war of attrition of those too weak to win outright... but too strong of heart to give in... those who can admit sometimes when the fact we're staring defeat in the face lends us all the courage we're ever gonna get... And sometimes we have to push the enemy out of our own inner fortress... Sometimes you have to say no with the courage of your own convictions and sneer at the "victor..."

Bill F Protagoras

Even the Good Book must submit to the grubby mitts of the printer's devil.

Mike Monroe

Great chapter KT...love hearing all the opinions..Mine will for Josh to turn the tables somehow on the both of them in the end somehow. I can't see how he could be with her after this when the whole truth is laid bare..How could any self respecting person do it. I still believe Josh was manipulated to get here. He is not the usual cuck...this was not his fantasy...As far as he believe he was in his perfect marriage with his best friend....bur over time people will show you who they really are ..believe them when they do!

Bill F Protagoras

Kimmy is at the centre of the story because before it began she had become the omphalos, the familiar centre of her and Josh's youthful enterprise... whenever they are alone and seek surcease from fret suspicion and past grief or grievance they snugly fit together like yin and yang hugging, or the calming ritual of the Tao-Te Ching... and make themselves a choice target for the jealousy, spite and cruelty of those who choose bottomless greed... who only want to be on the side that's 'winning.' What they have at stake might as well be invisible to Devlin because he would never recognize true power if it spat in his eye... Which makes him their curse... Of course, the stone omphalos of Delphi looks not totally unlike the gnarly head of a cock... go figure Kimmy Waters né Kimberley Chang! Remember Kimmy a careless move could turn Josh into a caricature... and the rest of your own life a mockery...

CSH

Sexual submissive. We’ve seen Josh be more aggressive and more successful at work for example.

RCH

Happy Boxing Day! Things have settled down enough that I just got around to reading this chapter. Things are coming to a head! Wow, lots of insightful observations from everyone. Josh's reaction in the aftermath of this will be interesting. Will he be able to live with it or is he going to feel disgusted by it or embrace it? Great writing KT.

Bill F Protagoras

Thank you, I really appreciate your, wow... The muse of my muse is my muse. It just happened with the image you planted in my head. And how the progress of this chapter, amongst other things, made me feel... thanks to your inspiration... That's why I'm here

KT Morrison

wow!

Bill F Protagoras

Only a coward claims dominance on the backs of the weak... to submit is not to be a submissive, a submissive is a creature of the imagination, giving way is a tactic in life's battles... if you sit by the river long enough you will see a lot of debris...

Bill F Protagoras

Kimmy will never be slave to anyone but the one she freely gives herself to, if or when she pleases. But her flaw is that in earning pride in her own accomplishments, she has mislaid the dignity we owe to others....

Bill F Protagoras

Can we believe Kimmy's theory that by changing into an enabler, a facilitator, a broker, Josh could survive this ordeal by becoming what would be Devlin's pimp, just a lower rung on Stone's cuckolds' ladder of submission, or hierarchy of needless cruelty, or cruelty Devlin needs to salve his pride. If it is Kimmy's thought at all. Will the crippled couple earn it's vindication by tripping the upstart Devlin's heels... for in the lowest deep, a lower deep still threatening to devour him opens wide? And witches come from old chaos and Mother Night..

Bill F Protagoras

There's a sexshop on Devlin's territory perhaps the owner is grateful for his patronage... perhaps he is the owner.

Bill F Protagoras

And knew that despite all the betrayal, she would do whatever it took to please him. To really please him. To make things right. To make things better. If he could elaborate on that perspective, it was possible that he could find the art, the beauty in his wife’s witchcraft.

Bill F Protagoras

he watched the man who sullied his school days enjoying the one most amazing thing in his life he could call his own...

Bill F Protagoras

Devlin frequently holds the scruff of Kimmy's neck as though he were a terrier and she his prey... but is it not she who draws his beastly hands, the bearer of La Vita Nuova? The renovated alpha bitch now the stronger will, drawing his weaker mind in with the supernatural suction of a Charybdis, her irresistible draw overcoming his vaunted power, toying with and vanquishing the overestimated renown of his 'mighty' cudgel bringing his dominion low for the sake of her fleeting pleasuring... while Joshua's horn crows like a cockerel and the walls come tumbling down and someone's post-coital bliss sours to regret... this is my fevered dream... and favoured firming resolution. Victory from the jaws of defeat... I know... I know... the course of true love ne'er did run true... on the coast of Illyria, a sea change, Gaspar, Melchior, and Balthasar lead their groaning retinue, camels, gifts and all... trudge over 'damp' sand only pausing to enquire of a bedraggled but beguiling young lad about any likely cribs hereabouts... looks like they've lost their way...

Bill F Protagoras

I was summoned... Speak of the devil. And he'll appear... Weakness conjures me.

Bill F Protagoras

Kimmy boldly arches her back centre stage

Bill F Protagoras

Lizzie Siddall was one of the favourite models of the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood. She portentously featured as dead Ophelia and also the Lady of Shallot, Dante Gabriel Rossetti painted her as the other Dante's Beatrice many times though perhaps most famously as Blessed Beatrice, they had a rocky marriage as Rossetti was a bit of a ladies' man. She was sickly and addicted to laudnum, even so she painted and wrote herself... She gave birth to a stillborn child and after depression and possible neuralgia died of illness and her drug (or medicine) of choice. There was some speculation about the causes of her death, one being suicide. Whatever... Rossetti wrote a poem called "Without You" which you would never confuse with Nilsen's song... nevertheless, I would never consider him as good a poet as a painter, or as good a poet as his sister Christina! I think you might now see why KT has my vitals in her grip. Beatrice, Juliet to Dante's ageing Romeo, was of course the one who sent Virgil to guide Dante on to his eventual educational tryst with her in the giddy higher reaches of the Comedy Divine... where we are assuredly not bound.

CSH

Good enough. Hope it’s going well for you. Enjoy seeing your family.

JamesIsAsleep

This was really interesting

Bill F Protagoras

One being I will be extremely pissed off... Hope you're havin' a good Navidad!

Bill F Protagoras

How much more ill omened could it get for me and Josh, in this chapter where my beloved couple begin to struggle against their malignant sadistic satan... against the backdrop of two bereft historical Dantes evoked by paintings worth much more than a thousand words. Beatrice Portinari, star-crossed daughter of a banker and beloved of our prime Dante and his lifelong object of adulterous obsessive love... which is possibly the greatest, known, real life example of courtly love in history. Ironically, as a youth l remember seeing Henry Holiday's painting of Beatrice and Dante at the Walker Art Gallery often, Beatrice babe among babes and Dante with just a dab of voyeuristic dirty old man. The blood of slaves, and cotton granted me, ironically free access to Pre-Raphaelite models' pulchitrude. Alas, no internet porn then... but plenty of Victorian porn round Merseyside and Port Sunlight's Lady Lever Museum. My daughter just got up so you're gonna have to wait for another ridiculously short resume of Dante the painter's tragic relationship with his model and wife, Elizabeth Siddal... Later, Kimmy-haters...

CSH

I don’t see an end in sight unless she just cuts it off after this scene. Gotta hope that doesn’t happen for a whole variety of reasons.

CSH

This has always been Kimmy’s story first and foremost. The transformation of the marriage of Josh and Kimmy, yes, but I agree, Kimmy was the catalyst all along. I would imagine even Devlin could accept that and claim he was merely ripping aside the veil to reveal the true, dominant Kimmy. He also could claim he was trying to reveal to Kimmy Josh’s true, hidden nature as a sexual submissive. I’d also remind you of Kimmy’s thought that the only way to claim her place as the equal of Amy and Devlin was to break Josh, a view that she has reconciled in her mind with her desire to protect Josh from Devlin.

Andrew Mellein

I think that KT is slowly hinting the baby to be Josh’s although there is no mention of that predicament in this chapter. I wonder how many chapters KT will need to finish this book and series. There is still a lot to delve into this story such as Hyun, baby, private investigator and all the loose ends! And we still have not got through this steamy scene yet! I still love it! Merry Christmas KT!

Kat

Josh seems to be accepting of what is happening in front of him. He’s also finally putting the pieces together and admitting what we all know. Kimmy has been cheating on him with Devlin, and it started well before the Caymans. While I was disappointed to have Devlin’s replica remark glossed over, I am interested in hearing Kimmy’s thoughts. Hopefully the next chapter will be in her voice. I like hearing her perspective the most, because I think she’s the one driving the story forward. We’ve spent a lot of time discussing Josh, and his feelings, needs and kinks, but Kimmy is the heart of the story. She is the Devil in the Waters. Devlin may have “planted the seed” in Josh’s mind, but he would have no impact here if Kimmy hadn’t fooled around with him at the party, and continued to do so throughout the story. She may think Josh is in charge here, only because she is trying to keep Josh from leaving her. This is Kimmy’s thing to lose.

Kat

Ha ha this made me laugh. The alert dropped for me when I was with my kid. 😂

JamesIsAsleep

I like how the end of this segment mirrored my thoughts as I'm getting alerts that this dropped while I'm working on preparing meals for my extended family. It certainly wouldn't be my ideal choice to be reading this donning an ugly Christmas sweater carrying meatballs! Nevertheless that's what happened

L_S87

I loved that part, because it actually makes sense. Its twisted, perverted logic that most would never subscribe to, but it makes sense for him. The whole "telling me hurts too much, but showing me is okay" line never made sense. It was dumb and illogical. But this. This is Josh showing that to be a lie. Neither was ever true. He knew what she would say. He just didn't want her to add to her existing web of lies, making cutting through them even more difficult. There is no "okay" or "right" in being shown this. There is only knowing what is, finding the "truth" (such as it is) and doing it on your own terms instead of being lied to yet again for the umpteenth time while finding some thrill, painful and heart wrenching, in what you've setup because you finally get to call the shots instead of these two assholes calling them for you behind your back. Or so Josh tells himself. I don't think he's going to much like the conclusions he comes to once Devlin shows him the type of woman his wife can truly be. Yes, she loves him, but she gets lost in her own wants once the fire is stoked. And those wants never end well for Josh's heart and well being. He knows she's a monster. He admits it here. But there's "knowing" and then there's *knowing*. Josh is at the former, he'll probably be broken by the time he gets to the latter.

L_S87

Yep, pretty much. She hates the asshole, yet she loves how she feels when he does things to her. You can see it at the end when she leans into him and his touch. And Josh is going to have to see that and accept it. Because he asked for it so she's going to show him what she's been "protecting" him from. How much she holds back to mitigate the impact is what will make or break Josh. That and how much of an asshole Devlin is, because Kimmy read him like a book here on what he wants out of this. Which also scares the shit out of Josh. She knows him well, much, much too well.

Donkatsu

I’m ok, you’re ok; I’m a schmuck, you’re a cuck. Seems to be the theme here. Josh has been told to assume the brace position. That only works to save him if here is no fireball. KT, thanks for this holiday treat, best wishes from here.

Tracey52

Still don’t know hoe Devlin and Josh know about the dildo?

Tracey52

Typo. This was why he was here. To play it out. To find something in this sinful betrayal he could hold close to his chest and call his won.

Bill F Protagoras

And Proserpine! Danger Bill F! Danger!

Bill F Protagoras

Oh, kudos on the pun and the doubling down on Dante... with Alighieri's very own Kimmy.

Bill F Protagoras

Brilliant... This is more a... Tell me O Muse How Josh came to revise his opinion of Mondays sort of epic tale... thanks, hope you and all our merry band have a good holiday time... with plenty of good cheer... and humbugs for them as likes the taste! My daughter will be arriving soon so I take my leave with Silent Night playing in the saviour's birth and the bloodying of the people's flag...

Bill F Protagoras

once the bra was off HE not her smoothed his

Bill F Protagoras

As I've been reading the previous books yet again I've realized you have established your own form of the Homeric metaphor... love them!

Bill F Protagoras

Merry Christmas, today is THE day in Spain... thanks for a great present though the day for presents here is Epiphany!

L_S87

I think Josh has no idea where he's going after this. He shows acceptance of what is. He acknowledges how awful Kimmy is, acknowledges all the shameful things she's done. He loves her, but he doesn't love that their marriage is no longer a partnership, that Kimmy does what she wants and only feels remorseful afterwards. That he's only included when she wants him to be. That he's only safe "somewhat" because of her guilt. She does love him, but that doesn't stop her from being awful when she wants to be. She only isn't being awful now (since Josh doesn't know about Hyun) because her love is telling her their marriage is on a precipice and she still values that marriage and Josh's love. A precarious place to be. Because now he's trapped. If she treats Devlin like this, how will she treat Josh if he spurns her and leaves? She'd crush him. So Josh takes what he can, as KT so masterfully states near the end. Takes what little power he has to control what he can and eek what little enjoyment he can out of this awful situation these two monsters have placed him in. Worse because he still loves one of them, horrible as she is. Gonna get a lot worse before it (maybe) gets better.

Bill F Protagoras

close to his chest and call his own... not won I presume


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