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DITW 15-25: And Perhaps Her Grave

🕑 Added 2025-02-26 02:43:46 +0000 UTC

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Bill H.

This reminds me of a line from an old movie I can’t remember the name of. “Sometimes, things are just the way they seem".

Chris K

She did internally say that when she made the video, she wasn't sure who's baby it was. But Kimmy hasn't yet confirmed through her internal thoughts that she is Josh's.

Pete

Prior to this chapter I was certain that Colleen was Josh's. But here, Kimmy tells Josh over and over again that Colleen is his. She repeats it at least five times within a few short paragraphs. There's a famous quote...how does it go? Something like "thou dost protest too much." What if...Kimmy's lying? That was an awful lot of assurance. For something Josh was already convinced of. Now it could be that she was just really anxious, and wanted to reassure him. But....telling him again five times? That's more than a bit over the top. Imagine: 'Josh heard voices in the other room. No, not voices, just Kimmy on the phone, talking excitedly. "He bought it. Hook, line, and sinker. I told you I could manage him. How? It was easy. Josh always sees what he wants to see. He wants SO much for Colleen to be his daughter. It was effortless. He's right where we want him." She was masturbating furiously as she chatted rapidly, nearly out of breath. But with who? Who was she talking to?'

L_S87

I agree with your last statement. (All of it really, but the last part I like the most) Kimmy seems to be treating Hyun like she's disposable. Now, KT has hidden *A LOT* from us when it comes to their relationship and the past year, but how Kimmy is acting now screams "you're not needed anymore." She's not being mean about it like she's kicking her out, but more like only her and Josh and being together really matters now that Hyun's helped pull her through the hard parts. That room feels like a summation of their entire relationship. Hyun leaving it spartan and simple because she doesn't view it as the space she wants to permanently reside in and Kimmy letting her leave it that way because she wants Hyun to feel committed to their relationship but doesn't quite care enough to support Hyun in moving past that lack of home feeling. As per usual, Kimmy wants to have her cake and eat it too. Some of that is just guessing, because I know Kimmy *does* care about Hyun, in someways more than she does about Josh, but she also has let Hyun have this hope, knowing it's going nowhere yet keeping her around like some sort of parachute should Josh walk away. And Hyun wants to be that parachute. Yet now she likely never will be, so she's in her unwanted room, feeling unneeded. We'll see if I'm reading that right. There could be a really dark option here that's none of that.

Kat

I was always under the impression that Hyun’s room was on the ground floor. I don’t know why, but isn’t there a nursery for Colleen on the ground floor? If Hyun and Kimmy ‘s rooms are so close to one another, there’s no way that she didn’t hear Kimmy and Josh. And if the door was open a crack, she was definitely watching them. She was curious, especially if she could hear them. Their whole relationship is probably a mystery to her, and who knows if Kimmy has really told her the whole story. She probably wanted to see for herself why Kimmy would want Josh back. Hyun’s opinion of Josh doesn’t seem to be a good one. I wonder if she saw them watching the video. Maybe she heard the dialogue on it? Did seeing Josh’s breakdown do anything to her? When Kimmy went into her room I was waiting for something really bad to happen, or for Kimmy to discover something bad. I watch too many tv shows and movies. Lol I’m betting that Hyun is faking being asleep. Her bed seems too disorganized, and she’s too hidden to really be sleeping. As for Hyun’s sparse room, my first instinct was that it’s sparse because she’s been spending the year (when Sophie’s with Meyer) in Kimmy’s room. The other reason is quite sad. It’s giving off “hired help” vibes, like she’s a nanny who’s staying in Kimmy’s house, and has no life beyond her job and school.

L_S87

I know, were both in the "Why does Kimmy get everything she wants instead of having her comeuppance as she deserves," boat. There's still time. If Josh got his hands on that phone, things may play out differently. There's obviously a reason it's in a safe.

L_S87

You could be right. Either way, it shows that room isn't her home. Or at least she doesn't want it to be. It feels like a temporary place. Hopefully we found out why in the next chapter.

L_S87

I don't think it necessarily means more on that video, but may mean just more videos period. We know she taped her and Devlin having sex when she ran that recording of "showing Devlin her breasts" that made Josh throw up even though she stopped it before the real events occurred. Plus she also filmed her and Devlin and Amy. Who knows what else she has in there.

L_S87

I'm kind of wondering if she's already awake and just pretending because she's not sure she wants Kimmy to know she's awake. Or is scared to speak up. Or doesn't know what to say. If that partially open door I'm interpreting is right, she may be scared of what Kimmy will say if she's caught still awake. Some of this also is going to fall into what Hyun saw. Naughty sex or Josh bawling is eyes out? I'm betting she might view Josh a bit different if she saw that.

Dan W

Don’t know about anyone else but i’m so tense waiting for an almighty twist I’m almost cramping up.

JL23

I didn’t take the sparseness of Hyun’s room as a sign she was staying in Kimmy’s room really. I just think it’s a sign she only sees it as a place to sleep and study. If she’s not in class, she’s taking care of Colleen and Sophie. I doubt they would have been spending nights together with Sophie in the house and down the hall. The passage with Kimmy at the bedroom door, closing and unclosing it, and seeing something she “disapproved” of, and the fact she says it’s only a “few steps” to Hyun’s door. If she’s was that close, perhaps she heard things and couldn’t resist seeing exactly what this relationship between Josh and Kimmy entails.

JL23

You’re thinking Hyun was listening, or perhaps even watching them at some point? And Kimmy figured that out when she opened the bedroom door?

Chris K

Apparently more on the video we don't get either.

Chris K

I wish that baby was Devlin's. I wish something would happen to the all great and powerful Kimmy. I wish, I wish, I wish....

JL23

“Into the wild abyss, the womb of nature, and perhaps her grave.” There’s that duality again. Has Josh accepted his duality? As Kimmy has accepted hers, and found she loves him more for what she perceives is his? I’m not 100% sure he really has yet, but it’s a process. And yet, as I end the chapter, all I can think is…”will Hyun wake up before Kimmy leaves?”

L_S87

Wow, KT. Just... Wow. *SO* different from the last chapter on an emotional level, and yet... just as amazing if not more so. I really liked the part where Kimmy admitted Josh is in many ways better than her. She destroyed him but he didn't return the favor. He gave her this chance and continues to give her chances because even though she doesn't much deserve it, he loves her. And I think that was her way of acknowledging it. Her acceptance of some truths she doesn't much like. Then again, she's still Kimmy, so she can't totally cozy up to all the truth, there's got to be some lies and deceit in there somewhere. And she ultimately got what she wanted, Josh surrendering and accepting her lie that she did it all for him. Oh, certainly there is a version of the truth in there because without Josh she wouldn't have gotten off on the thrill of cheating and humiliating him, but she started off only thinking of herself and what she got out of this. No amount of Josh surrendering to keep the peace so they won't have this same argument for the 100th time changes the truth of the matter. Also notable that Josh hit her with the truth in enjoying his suffering and she still pulled the distraught act while they both know she does. The last chapter was proof, even if she hadn't admitted it before. No, she'll use the truth when it helps her, but deception is always close in her back pocket. As amazing as the dialogue and shower scene was, the last bit was the most revealing. It took me a couple reads to realize what the scene at the door meant. Hyun, you naughty woman. Then again, Hyun's room paints and even more sordid picture. No furnishing... Barely lived in? Paints a picture that it's not really her room, or at least not where she spends most of her nights? I hope I'm reading that wrong, because if not.... Kimmy truly is a heinous bitch. Won't hurt Josh? Yeah... Only because what he doesn't know won't hurt him. Right Kimmy?


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