krysdecker
patreon
Future changes on billing model.
🕑 Added 2024-08-12 15:01:28 +0000 UTCHey everyone, that day that I postponed for ages is finally around the corner.
Due to Apple's asinine app store, patreon will permanently force creators to change the billing model to the "every 30 days" model.
Currently I use to old "billing on the 1st day of the month" model because I think it makes a lot more sense.
To explain in an easier way what's going to change:
Current version:
If you subscribe on the 20th day of the month you are billed right when you join and then again on the 1st day of the next month, and then always on the 1st day of the month.
New version (which is going to be forced on every creator) on November 2024:
If you subscribe on the 20th day of the month, you are billed right when you join and then again on the 20th day of each month.
Another important detail, is that membership purchased USING the patreon app on the iOS will ALSO be subjected to apple's 30% app store fee. So I recommend you stay away from subscribing to new patrons through the app and simply do it on the browser.
For example, if you subscribe to a patreon that has a $10 tier:
in the browser you'll pay $10.
in the Patreon app in the Apple Store you'll pay around $13-14. ($3-4 will simply go to Apple, and NOT the creator)
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Will it change anything for me?
As far as I'm aware, they won't change existing billing. If you are billed on the 1st now, you'll still be billed on the 1st. So if you keep your subscription as it is, you won't see any difference. BUT if you cancel your billing and then resubscribe again later, it will be on the new version. So keep that in mind.
Will this affect the reward system?
Possibly. I'll see how to adapt to that in the best way and obviously I'll keep you guys informed on any change. The same amount of work will be created and posted, that will remain the same. I'll probably just have to adjust how the rewards are sent. But we'll see how it goes.
Keep in mind this is not something I'll change because I want (trust me, I prefer the current model), but simply something they are going to force on every creator, so expect to see a lot of outrage from the community about that in the coming days.
Comments
I’mNotSayingThat
Thank you for the heads up, haven’t received notice from any other creators I follow.
Juraks (No Credits)
Yeah, as the supporter, it is really confusing how some creators have annual options and some don't.
Wulfe
I just use the website, skipping the app is great even on mobile
NMilbury
Good point. Even Patreon are increasingly quite hostile to adult content creators. There is a semi professional fine art nude photographer I support on here. He does nothing but high-class, beautiful work. They even give him a hard time!
Will
We can always count on a greedy corporation to mess things up. Thanks for the heads up.
Alysandir
Frankly, they've been dropping support for anything that includes "adult content" so I'm still predicting that either they'll drop Patreon altogether, or Patreon will drop creators that have adult content. I already support one creator that does their SFW stuff here and the NSFW stuff on SubscribeStar in anticipation themselves.
Lee
yep, apple doing apple things =D
Lee
for whatever reason I can't enable anual support, I'll have to check with support to see why. Patreon takes around 10% (5% is patreon fees and 5% is billing fees) which honestly is fair enough in my opinion. they really screwed up for apple store users, hence why I'm seeing a lot of creators campaigning for people to subscribe on pc/android instead.
Lee
for whatever reason it doesn't allow me to enable that option. I'll have to check with their support as to why I don't have it available.
VolfKami
Changes nothing for me on Android as long as I don't unsubscribe and resubscribe but good luck Apple people
Kermit's America
Apple really set up a troll toll tax on Patreon 💀
Lee
personally, I don't really use apple, but yeah, it's a shitty move from them.
Juraks (No Credits)
Is there a better way to support you where you get closer to the full amount? I believe patreon takes 8-12% of every donation but I could be wrong. Personally would prefer to support annually but I know that's not for everyone.
Sunny Muffins
Sounds like you ios users maybe should cancel then resubscribe on a pc.
D Banks
I used the google app, but to be honest I won't risk it
David Spracklen
Can you add a yearly membership tier?
Michael Emerson
And this is one of the many reasons why I hate apple. At least it won't affect me.
Lee
yeah, personally I don't use anything from them, but a lot of people do. and the billing model change will unfortunately affect everyone (the tax is still only on purchases via apple store)
Lee
oh it's the least I can do is be transparent about those things =D btw, I posted Iris & Maya part 4 a few days ago!
D Banks
okay i have nothing to do with apple at least for now I am not affected.
Scott Taylor
Thanks for the heads up. It won't effect me but nice to know ya care my friend. Apple is a greedy bunch. I stay away from them as much as I can. Take care and looking forward to part 4 of Iris and Maya's summer.
