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the shift to public existence

🕑 Added 2019-04-14 11:02:31 +0000 UTC

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K_A

I've been highly enjoying your recent "openness" and your fun streams, and I value your wise, warm-hearted nature a lot more than being in some elite access club. My thought on pay-walling is that it only really makes sense if it is for content that is ultimately either made available to everyone or sold individually through other means.

Kadah

I'm generally against pure exclusiveness on here and only support creators that share finished stuff with everybody at some reasonable point. Making WIP, rough draft, stench, early release, etc stuff patron exclusive is cool by me, but the ones that straight up pay wall most of their content are butts. The minimum I prefer seeing on parteon is creators cross posting the stuff here. Just easier to fallow without getting lost in all the other. :3

msx

i'll make sure stuff ends up here as well, for sure!

ph_w

Exclusive content on Patreon is a weird animal. Some people (like Neil Cicierega, go figure) just use the service as a tip jar. Others treat it like a hard paywall which can put some fans off. I feel like lately you've fallen somewhere in the middle, and that’s fine by me. I initially pledged for all the awesome stems and production resources, and while I would always love more of those on here, I’m happy to keep supporting any endeavors you undertake. Also, here's an idea: If some patrons are still expecting something "exclusive", you could keep music production streams patron-exclusive and stream all other content on Twitch.

I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say I support you because I love your work, not for extra rewards (though those are awesome too!)

Woolfwoof

Yo, you create stuff I love, my pledge is to help you keep doing that. You do you and I’m getting my moneys worth.

I agree. I never really liked the idea of exclusivity being a reward or incentive for financial support. Share everything as soon as you can! I'm happy to give my support as long as I can just because I love what you make, but the merch discounts are nice ngl. Keep on doing your thing and making the world a little brighter for all the people that appreciate it <3

msx

this is more or less how i feel i see it as well - the issue that comes about is that i didn't have that in mind when i *did* start it, and pivoting towards something like that may very well be upsetting to those that do covet exclusivity (which, btw, i do not endorse as an attitude, it's very harmful socially). i just hope that overall people can see it as "hey, so i do all this stuff and i want to keep doing it and i want to do it for free, so if you wanna help, that would be super" thank you for the comment, i really appreciate it

I'd like to image Patreon more like a donation platform and less like a place to get exclusive content. I love the approach of "i don't feel like privatization of what i create", as creating paywalls or other limitation to access is essentially excluding people by arbitrary reasons like wealth and your approach to things like piracy and remixing is one of the reasons that made me want to support you and your work in the first place. As far as I see it, you should try to reach more, new people and every release made as publicly accessible as possible is a better release! I don't really feel entitled to get anything special (other then the rewards) just because I'm a patreon.


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