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Chapter 917: Eternity Awaits Us
🕑 Added 2024-07-05 23:00:05 +0000 UTC“I’ve been looking forward to meeting you, Jason Asano.”
Jason’s feet lifted off the ground as he floated forward, coming eye to eye with the much taller man. His friends watched warily from behind.
“Why are you here?”
“These are not the circumstances under which I hoped we would meet. I am here to apologise. I won’t pretend that the people who died here matter to me. That I care about the homes they’ve lost or the impact this will have on their entire lives. But those things matter to you, and that matters to me.”
“If you think an empty apology will make me less angry instead of more, you have made a dire miscalculation.”
“I do not intend it to be empty, but we can discuss that in a moment. You and I will know each other for longer than time can measure. This first meeting is no small thing, and I would like to do it properly. When I said these are not the circumstances I hoped for, that was not just a glib line.”
Jason stared at the messenger for a long time.
“Who are you, Jamis Fran Muskar?”
“I am a member of the Council of Kings, as you have most likely guessed. Some consider me the leader of it, although it has no such thing.”
“Why do I get the feeling that it does?”
A flicker of a smile teased the messenger’s lips for just a moment.
“A first amongst equals, perhaps. Do not expect me to repeat that in other company, however. Sometimes, to lead means standing behind. You are just beginning your political education, but I have no doubt that time will see you master the nuances.”
“You know me.”
“You first came to my attention during your conflict with Vesta Carmis Zell, whose influence has sharply diminished after her failures here. Pursuing her own objectives while the rest of us moved with shared purpose was a dangerous move for her, politically. Failing was disastrous. She was never the most influential member of the council, and now even her position on it is in danger.”
“Will she be back?”
“No. Her objective was lost to you, and to join the larger cause now would look like crawling back. She needs to cut her losses and rebuild her power base with other endeavours.”
“Then I don’t care.”
“No? In time, she will come at you again.”
“Let her.”
A smile twitched on Jamis’ lips again.
“Good,” he said. “Dwelling on defeated enemies is not the way of one who stands at the pinnacle. It is the attitude that an original should have. Do you know much about the originals?”
“No.”
“I know this is far from an opportune time, but would you like to?”
Jason frowned. He glanced back at his companions, their expressions all saying no. Even Clive, information hungry as he was.
“It’s fine,” he told them, then turned back to Jamis. “Let’s take a walk.”
He drifted to the ground and set off, across the curved base of the massive hole. He walked through the space where the mountain of messenger corpses had been, but no trace of them remained. Every scrap and stain had dissolved into rainbow smoke. The crater was barely curved at the bottom, being the size of a city. It was barren and smooth, sealed by the power that hollowed it out.
“The originals are like you,” Jamis said. “Those who were not messengers yet became astral kings anyway, except they were never just astral kings. You, the astral nexus, blend elements of gods, astral kings, and great astral beings. The astral colossus has a prime avatar larger than most planets. He spends his time drifting through the void of various universes for reasons I could never determine. The astral beast has no prime avatar, as you and I would understand it. He possesses armies of living creatures, spawned from his astral kingdom.”
“You’re not an original. You’re a normal astral king.”
“To my envy, I am not of your kind. I told the fools who attacked you that they were not like you and I, but the truth is, I am closer to them than you. Messengers and astral kings are obsessed with superiority, but the truth is, you stand above us all. We tell ourselves differently, but those of us who remember the originals know. Even the name we changed. You were called originators, at first, but it didn’t fit with the myths we built around ourselves.”
“Originators. The originals were the origin of the messengers?”
“Yes. We were your messengers. But, over time, the originators retreated into obscurity. More rose, from time to time, but few are like you, Jason Asano. Left to our own devices, we started telling ourselves stories. That we were the prime species of the cosmos, messengers of the cosmic will. Our originators became the originals, not our makers but merely the first of us.”
“But you know all this.”
“We are immortal. Records are almost as easy to find as wilful ignorance, and I am a student of our history. And we do encounter them, from time to time. Stumble into whatever interest they’re pursuing. Sometimes we even fight them, as we are fighting you here. Most are older than us. Your youth is part of what makes you such a contentious figure for us.”
“Why are you telling me all this?”
“My interest here is in the future. You and I will still know each other when this planet has been swallowed by its sun. Our relationship will be so much more than this world. This war. I want you to understand what you are, and what we are. That there are those, like me, who understand that the originals are more than just astral kings. That you stand above us.”
“Most of your kind don’t see it that way.”
“But they feel it. That is why their reaction to you is so polarised. You trigger an instinct within us, to fight you or obey you, because you make us want to kneel.”
“But not enough that I can make you leave this planet.”
“Instincts can be overcome.”
“Why do you need this? What makes the Purity artefact so precious you would spend lives by the tens of thousands to obtain it?”
“Because of you. The originals. You can come from every species except the messengers, and I want to change that. To be like you. More than just an astral king. But that is not something one can become from simple desire. It takes the right circumstance, the right opportunity, and this relic is the beginning of that for me.”
“You want to be an original.”
“Yes. You are each unique. All of you reached that point in different ways, and I would do so as well. But to snatch that chance, it takes a resolve that never wavers. Whatever the damage, whatever the cost, you must seize the opportunity when it appears. You are one of the few who truly understand this.”
“Then you know me less well than you think. I don’t do what I do for power. That came as a consequence of fighting for the things you dismiss. The price of your power. To you, the lives of innocent people are a cost. To me, they are the entire point. I am not an astral king first, or an original. I’m an adventurer.”
He moved in front of Jamis, staring up at him.
“And adventurers stand between innocent people and things like you.”
“Yes. I know that what has happened here will only further poison you against us. My hope is to ameliorate that damage. You and I are enemies, today, but eternity awaits us. I hope that one day, you and I can be friends. Amongst my kind, such sentiment is considered a warning sign of Unorthodoxy sympathising.”
“I am going to burn down your entire civilisation. Do you think we can be friends after that?”
“I do. Perhaps we can even change things together, but that is for another day. On this one, I have come to make an apology. Not an empty one, although I know there can be no true restitution for what my people have done here. Turning the power you use to protect into the weapon that killed a city. It was not the council’s intention, for what little that is worth. The council’s directive to not target you was explicit, but those instructions were defied. The plan to attack you was not sanctioned.”
“What was the plan? Use the weapon to kill me and the city, then occupy the rubble with their army?”
“The interaction of your power with the weapon was unanticipated. The plan was for the weapon to weaken you, then for the messengers to strike. Kill your avatar and make an example of the city.”
“Where did the weapon come from?”
“Some group that has been giving us trouble for years. Energy vampires. Their powers are required to make their weapons work, but they have only used them on messengers, to my knowledge. They have never used them on a Voice of the Will, let alone a prime avatar before. No one knew what would happen, but while the means of the city’s destruction was accidental, the destruction itself was not. The messengers would have razed it to the ground anyway. Slaughtered or enslaved the population.”
Jason didn’t respond, but his expression was answer enough.
“I know you will never overlook what has happened here,” Jamis continued. “And I know what happens if you go to war against us in earnest, here on this planet. I think you see this hole where a city once stood, and you know it too. You attack our forces. Drain them for the power to use that bird form to resurrect your avatar. We escalate with high rankers in retaliation, creating a cycle of triggering your resurrection and you slaughtering us with it. Our search is slowed to a crawl as this planet is ravaged by our battles. We astral kings are forced to intercede with our prime avatars which, in turn, allows the gods to act more directly. I don’t know who wins all that, but I know who loses. The innocent people of this world as our war escalates until craters like this are scattered across it like sprinkles on a cake. That doesn’t matter to me, but it matters to you.”
“You want us to be friends?”
“I do. I hope that happens someday.”
“It won’t. Not until those people you don’t care about start to matter. Earth has its share of monsters, but they are nothing next to you. Their atrocities last decades at worst. How long have yours gone on already? Centuries?”
“Millennia.”
“I’ve made a lot of glib comments in my life about fighting evil. But you’re it. The real thing. I think you’re right in that you and I will know each other for a long time. And I’ll be fighting you for all of it.”
“I can live with that.”
Jason scowled.
“You have a proposal. You said restitution.”
“I did. I want to blunt your fury against us. Avoid the destruction I described. In short, to have you continue as you were instead of focusing your actions on us. This event will only reinforce those of us who understand the threat you pose. I want you to go about as you have been. Fight our messengers as they come across your path, but don’t actively campaign against them. In return, I have been empowered by the council to offer you the withdrawal of a significant number of our occupying forces from areas around the globe. Every location in which we have completed our search operations but still hold territory, we will abandon. Immediately.”
Jason rose in the air, his feet leaving the ground as he came eye to eye with Jamis.
“Your proposal is that you abandon the areas now useless to your larger goal. The ones controlled by those who, like the astral kings that attacked me, have lost focus? Freeing them up for you to reconcentrate your resources on your actual objectives?”
Jamis smiled.
“I should have been hoping you wouldn’t realise that part, yet I find myself glad that you were not so easily deceived.”
“You expect a counteroffer.”
“I do. But it cannot be to give up and leave. I will not surrender this opportunity, even for you. We are enemies, today. But if I can settle some of your enmity over what has happened here, I will. I know the price will not be cheap, but greatness comes from the resolve to pay the price others won’t. You claim that we are not alike in this, but we both know what it is to push on when those around us falter and lose their resolve.”
Jason stared at Jamis, his nebulous eyes burning.
“Abandon all the occupied territories?” he asked.
“Yes,” Jamis said.
“That could be acceptable, but you don’t get the messengers.”
“What do you mean?”
“The messengers in those territories. You don’t just get them to redeploy. They come to me. Their astral kings set them free of their marks and I take them.”
“All of them?”
“All of them.”
“That would require getting numerous kings to give up the entirety of their forces on this planet. What happened here already demonstrates that the Council of Kings is not absolute in its power. Even if it was, I can’t sell this to them. I’m not a dictator, and controlling the council is a delicate affair. You understand that blunt solutions like this only cause trouble.”
“Yes, but it’s your politics. Your troubles. You want me to be an enemy and not a nemesis? Then you have to hurt for what your people have done here.”
“The council will see it as handing an army to the Unorthodoxy.”
“Killing and draining the life force from that many messengers would restore my power to use the ghost phoenix form. That is what was taken from me here.”
“I have studied you closely, Jason Asano. You don’t want these messengers to kill. You want to set them free.”
“Has the rest of the Council of Kings studied me closely as well?”
Jamis blinked.
“No,” he said. “No, they have not. And slaughtering quarter of a million messengers for personal power is exactly the kind of thinking that makes sense to them. Setting them free on moral principle is what they would find outlandish.”
He turned from Jason to pace contemplatively. Jason noted that it was a very human behaviour, compared to the imperiousness of normal messenger body language.
“You would have to take them into your astral kingdom,” Jamis reasoned. “And not let them out again, at least not here. And best not at all, until our operations on Pallimustus are done. And you couldn’t use that time to turn your astral kingdom into an Unorthodoxy training camp. If you unleashed a quarter-million strong Unorthodoxy army on the cosmos, the full force of the council would come after us both. You aren’t ready to endure that. Yet.”
“I’m not looking to turn slaves into soldiers. Their choices will be their own, and some will want to join the Unorthodoxy. I will hold them until your people are done with this planet, but if they want to fight you when that time is over, I won’t stop them. But I have a little experience in this. Most messengers aren’t ready to escape the indoctrination. It will be hard on them. Confusing, rage inducing. Some will even want to go back to your side.”
“We wouldn’t take them.”
“I know, and that only frustrates them further. Again, I have no interest in creating soldiers. Not for the Unorthodoxy and not for the astral kings. I want to let them be innocent people. The kind that were killed and displaced here today. Anything else is for them to choose on their own.”
Jamis turned back to Jason who had again floated to the ground.
“I cannot promise anything,” he said. “I will do what I can.”
Comments
ABTelford
I’m wondering if that’s the case too…but I don’t think that’s what Dawn was warning about. At least it’s not all of it.
Austin Wolf
Nah he has the nebulous eyes but he can hide them with some effort
Soli116
Doesn't Jason's prime avatar have brown eyes, not the nebulous ones?
ShieldWolf
The set up for the Thad Wick. Or Vald Wick as he is now has had so much set up I was hoping it was him. But that means he has to be either massacring messages to feed on or he is working with them and they are feeding him messages. I have a feeling he is going to Earth some how. Vald Wick is going to be the big boss fight I feel like.
Douglas Davis
The purity artifact is on Earth. Keeping the Council of Kings distracted by searching Palimustus is a good delaying tactic. That's the big fight that Dawn said Jason wasn't ready for yet.
Pierce
Heh Jason but with a 250k strong messenger army
Maudley
I mean I absolutely trust what he's saying. He's being very honest. But for anyone but Jason or an original, or another astral king with self awareness, he has absolutely no reason to respect them. Those are the only real people to him, maybe other trancendants. He will do what he has to to get what he wants, and right now what he wants is Jason to not hate him, and to get the purity relic.
Maudley
Iirc it was a array of natural arrays across the planet set up by a gold rank outworlder sent by purity (unknown if pre or post-sanctioning) with designs by a diamond ranker or higher. Dunno if any of this answers your questions
Collin LaShure
Ok...this may be a simple and stupid question, but i really cannot remember and if this is the case...then that gives the answer. Did Jason and Fara ever figure out what was the source of the grid on earth? What was powering it? Cuz i cannot remember much of all those books for some reason.
Idan tal
How many billions of years has this dude saw.. he’s at least around the same age as Boris. Probably killed people in the trillions.. I don’t trust a word he’s saying. He knows what the messengers were created for and I bet it’s wasn’t for becoming a multiverse plague, yet he is all pro it.
ItWasIDIO!!
Damn but I guess it's better that the a-hole wasn't Thad but hey hint hint team biscuit energy vampires sound familiar
Twilight Knights Cosplay
Or perhaps the priest was the one that brought the relic to Earth under the direction of Disguise.
LolGamez
They have a similar mindset, but Jamis's motivation is evil. Jamis is actually what Jason fears most. Remember when the diamond ranked hag showed him his worst fear?
Chloe
Tyftc
BloodStorm
Yeah and I see that happening before he heads back to earth but every world power will want him to cleanse monster core taint. I see Jason using it to cleanse vampires and people like Sophie’s mother
Andrew P
Doesn't Jason have an unusual ability to sense divine power? I wonder what will happen should he absorb the relic, as that would remove their incentive to be on that world.
JoeyRed
Well, many of us did get it right. It was a replica of Vladwicks sword. But why did the Builder have it in his astral space? When will Jason and Clive connect the dots? I believe that the artifact is on earth and that mr north knew. And that's why he split with his Disguise-priest. But what purpose do Disguise have to be involved with it? - be able to outlive Pallimastus? The AKs should be able to get sanctioned, just like everyone else. But like the gods, it's rare as hell. Maybe even only possible to sanction themselves. Due to soul stuff.. I think Vladwick is hunting/draining messengers to get to diamond and be "free". I don't believe that he has any animosity against Jason more than that he would like to drain his gestalt being. Just some thoughts.
Aubrey Listi
I'd argue that the best villains are likeable. Evil is supposed to be seductive. We are supposed to be drawn to it, and hate that we are all at once.
Aubrey Listi
Nightmare hag
Aaron Van Wormer
I was talking to a buddy the other day about Jason triggering transformation zones in other astral kingdoms and setting up domains.
DirePants
Oh yeah that’s good. Now we’re really getting some good info.
Bilal Williams
Don't know if that would be possible with the timeline but it would be dope with the increasing power levels of earth ignites it and or it was sent over with Norths master
Zachary Ross
I just had the best drunk thought. Purity's Relic isn't on palimustus because it was hidden on earth.
Zachary Ross
I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this but I kinda like Jamis. If Jason was smart and Jason is kinda smart he should be recruiting Jamis. The guy wants to be like Jason and let's face it Jason is very very broken and Jason really isn't in the messenger fight at the moment. Right now if I remember correctly Jason is going to finish his bridge to earth, and rebalance two realities. Then he is probably going to go fight a war with the vampires of earth. If we are lucky he will found an earth branch of the adventure society. This would be an incredible opportunity for Jamis to learn, not just about Jason who he would like to befriend; plus there has been this horrible conflict that Jason has been on a path to fighting that probably involves purity's relic. Jamis, didn't kill all those people or have a hand in the command that killed them. Look Jamis is a monster who is completely amoral, old, patient, intelligent, unstoppable, and immortal. He doesn't care about the people who are hurting and expecting empathy from a monster is the hight of stupid. But what Jamis is after is kinda important, his species is stagnating and Jamis is looking for a pathway to growth. It almost feels like the messengers want the relic to remove the taint of being artificial. If this is the case Jason needs to find a way to Norith this situation.
wanderer117
Yay! Intelligent Evil is the best evil. Narratively, to be clear.
Connor
Is it bad that I genuinely like him…? I feel like him and Jason could actually be friends at some point.
jacob butler
Think about Astral Kingdoms and Domains if you remember book 7 when Jason visits the temple of death he gets the notification of claimed territory which could end up being like astral kingdoms so maybe the Astral Kings are not so immortal since he was able to claim territory allowing him to grow more in power than the others
Josh A
I don't recall, can you specify where we learned that reincarnation is a thing? Certainly it's happened a couple of times but I don't recall it being a "standard practice". Reusing Gary's soul, and bringing Farrah back isn't setting a precedent, I think. But I'm sleepy and could be forgetting something.
Kconraw
Thx for the chapter
BloodStorm
I would’ve liked if Jamis offered to rebuild the city with the messengers pop up building technology
Joanna
Good point, what happened to our weekly torment, A.K.A. the Cliff?
Joanna
I've got a feeling we will, yeah
Joanna
The en-Legending continues...
Alex Schellenberg
I would assume that if Jason got access into one of their souls he could, theoretically, sanction one. But the effort would be like transcendent soul engineering and would be questionable.
Kalanaere
The were the messengers literally. So that means Jason is going to deep dive into Messenger history and figure out exactly where things went sideways. My guess is it's the lack of essences. It was meant to.stunt them and prevent threats to the Original but backfired
Daniel Wills
I think the “big battle” Dawn was warning about was always regarding the purity artifact. And Mr North likely would have been aware of it since he was bonded to one of Disguise’s priests.
Kalanaere
Exactly. He's actually more like Jason than Jason wants to admit and I think that's the problem. Jason wants somebody to be mad at and rail against and Jamis is freely admitting the mistake and making an attempt to fix it in the only way he knows how.
Aaron Schwartz
I haven’t seen edgy Jason since Rimaros. Self-righteous….. ehhh He’s always been self-righteous. Since the very beginning. But now he actually has the power to back it up. A preachy Iron ranker is a self-righteous asshole. A preachy Astral king is someone who can and will do anything and everything he tells people he is going to do.
SpicyApricotTree
Anyone else getting kinda tired of this self righteous edgy Jason?
Alex Schellenberg
Mr. North organized the EOA like this council of kings. It's interesting to see what he really knew. I do doubt we have seen the last of hat spider man
mhaj58
Can Astral kings be sanctioned? I imagine that Jason is a bigger threat to the council than anyone realizes?
Rowdy Robby
Oh yeah, that's the stuff. So many answers. So satisfy. And on Friday. Woah!
René Blaser
This is taking on whole new Dimensions. I wonder how Team Bisquit will fit into the irealm of the cosmic changes to come. I am sure we will at least get them to diamond rank together.
Jordan Jones
It is terrifying, in a “banality of evil” sort of way, that from Jamis’ perspective…he is being entirely reasonable. It’s why immortality seems to turn everyone into a true monster. Given what we know about the Reaper, the after life, and that reincarnation is a thing, from Jamis’ perspective, so what if a whole lot of mortals die? They don’t matter, and their suffering is quite, quite temporary. Because they, and all of their lives and experiences, are temporary. And it isn’t even the end for them. The only “people” to an existence like him, are the ones that are not temporary. The immortal mind is terrifying, because I can’t help but find a certain…logic in his perspective. And that creeps me the fuck out. The implications are beyond disturbing. Great chapter.
Sébastien Kingsbury
I'm liking Jamis. He's a bastard, but he's not a hypocrite about it
Maximus
It's gonna be great when Jamis sides with Jason over the rest of the council..
Anthony
This is such a fucking masterwork. These chapters are the highlight of my week.
Maximus
Very true. But I believe that the system does not include messengers. So it could "purify" everyone except the messengers..
Maximus
Only the beginning...
Maximus
Super cool indeed!
Andromeda Adams
I love where this is going. Jamis is going to be a wonderful enemy (sometimes). I think in the end they will probably work together.
Merle Neer
Dang it! Now I really want to know more about the originators. I really hope we get to learn about them and maybe even meet some in the future
Kaelan Spears
The more I think about it, the more I want Jason to get his hands on the purity artifact. Not only can it remove monster core taint, but it can allow messengers to become more than Astral kings? It could probably allow brighthearts and the like to take on essences. Maybe even cure vampires. Imagine if he absorbed it and integrated it into the System. Maybe then, the System would expand to everyone and everything
Daniel M Broussard
This isn't the end is it?
SmokeJam
Love the lore and buildup of Jamis as a potential frenemy or arch nemesis. In that regard I am looking forward to where you will take the philosophical dilemma of "when does pragmatism turn evil" in this story. Both Jason and Jamis have proper evil facettes in their character, it will be very interesting to see how they mix and clash.
ReadingObsessed
Wow you wrote a phenomenal villain. I genuinely like Jamis.
ABTelford
Wow, nice! Not how I expected the conversation to go. But it was what I was thinking this messenger astral king was - not unorthodoxy but something else. He’s…a jealous astral king - ambitious to be more. I like it! 😀. Thanks!
Namorat
Absolutely fascinating to me
Vincent Ciavone
Man recently I’ve been thinking about what the astral nexus was exactly and what others are like, but the idea that Jason is THE Astral Nexus, and other originals all have their own title is super cool and I’m excited to eventually see what they can do. Maybe these originals have something to do with the major calamity to come that everybody is preparing for. With all this, Jason’s title of Astral Nexus and his combination of powers seems to be like exactly what the builder wants, creating the perfect world to be god of
Mist Sparrow
I don't think it'll be the purity artifact, I think it might be some kind of Astral event that shade mentioned Jason wasn't ready to learn about when they were discussing fate senses. That or something to do with the magic moon, it still bothers me that the planets are so similar but somehow there's a second moon ????
Aerlevsedi
I begin to fully appreciate why I like him as a character so much. Part of it is that I think he is the closest we will ever get to a "real" version of Darth Jason, by which I mean the closest we will get to the bond villain version of Jason that wad his greatest fear when fighting that Astral witch in the cult of the reaper Astral space way back in iron rank (pretty sure it was iron, bronze came during the second visit I believe. Yeah, he obviously didn't have shade yet so it was iron).
Mist Sparrow
I wonder what vladwick got in the trade that Jamis mentioned, my initial thoughts were a trip to another reality out of fear of Jason
ItWasIDIO!!
We're getting places took a very long time but we're getting there more consistent good choices
Dylan Alexander
He’s the system administrator, I’m guessing if he so chooses he can sit in the chair anytime he wants. He just chooses not to.
Vincent Ciavone
I do aswell, but as an enemy, they seem to be the right nemesis for Jason, although I think their strength is still a little high at the moment, if they really went at jason the whole party, maybe world might not stand a chance, but I really like how, like the builder, Jamis is simply evil, logical, without sympathy or empathy at all. His is the seemingly most intelligent vs Jason when it comes to immortals, having lived both as a messenger and astral king, as well as being at the pinnacle of all of them, with knowledge of tons of secrets. With Janis’ confidence it honestly scares me more to think about maybe he’s right, and eventually, Jason and Jamis will be far closer to friends then enemies
Dylan Alexander
It’s essentially an unwinnable situation as these beings are truly immortal. I don’t know why Jason would want to dedicate his live to try and change something like that honestly. Doesn’t make much sense to me but I guess with eternity you can do whatever you want.
Stephanie Washburn
Honestly, it seems like a fair move for someone with just enough emotional intelligence to recognize Jason's type of resolve. A sacrifice was required for this to be a proper apology and Jamis is used to reale-politic style moves. This one would cost a good bit of political capital, but probably harm Jamis' competition more than it harms him. It's not a terrible loss all around, and hopefully avoids the worst outcomes when dealing with Jason - a guy who will suck it up and eat a bit of discomfort as long as an agreement with the bad guys as long as it helps enough people other than himself. It will also hurt enough to hopefully vent some of Jason's anger.
Dick Ramsey
I feel like the fact that any race can ascend to original status *except* messengers is a bomb.
Thomas Todd
Damn, I like Jamie. Nothing worse than a likeable villain, and not even just a villain but actually evil
Tim
Mercy? Thats hardly mercy to the majority of messengers who will be ripped from the religious delusion and forced to face life as a hated quantity. Theres no mercy in that. Except for those who low key desire it, but I would estimate those to be a very small percentage.
Andrew Johnson
Jason told the builder to leave and he left.. Now he's essentially getting most of the messengers to leave.. That's likely to get noticed and maybe make some people nervious..
Tim
Welp, Vladwick the Thadpires group confirmed for indirect cause. Damn, I wonder how quick Jason or Clive will put that together.
Gotrek65
Very interesting thought Jason would ask for something else.
Dimitri
Tell that to the reaper and the world phoenix who literally “walked for two years” into a trap within Jason’s soul 😄
Danielle Warvel
All I know is that I don’t envy Jason’s position in the slightest. Joining a unkillable community of ancient immortal being without morals you’re going to have to try and reel in for eternity or risk losing your own soul and morals through your inaction? No, thank you. That way lies madness. I’d rather be a Gary. Die in a blaze of glory doing the right thing. Become a martyr. No take backs, comic book reboots, or respawn buttons. R.I.P, emphasis on the Peace. That’s the way to go.
Sylphie
An eternal enemy gives purpose to eternity with that point of view they are your greatest friend
Leonardo Krieck
I have a question. Jason has already give up the power of the throne? I remember this as the subject that makes the reaper and others allowing Jason to undo the sundering, to have the power and relinquish it. If he has, he would have some aditional power to thrown at the messengers, not only beeing a originator...
Zachary Higgs
Based
Ligeia
I think you got it backwards. Jamis said the originators are NOT messengers, that it's easier for any other species to become one.
Ral
Just finished binge catching up for this to drop. Happy timing.
Alexander Dupree
Well that’s gonna be a fucking mess lol
AbyssalIceLord
Ok now im thinkin the "big issue" that jason is gonna have to deal with and has already lost, by dawns reconning, is that when the bridge is done that maybe an originator or even more will become involved in the purity artifact hunt...and thats what impossible about it...an originator or two fighting the council of kings in an all out brawl for it...that would most likely rock both Pally and earth to its core...maybe the bridge is needed so the universes can survive the battle and then and only then will the pheonix allow the originators to come....otherwise they woulda destroyed 2 universes and we know she doesn't like that at least.
Allen Wilding
I’m curious how this will end. Seems somewhat out of the blue right now
Aaron Schwartz
And now I wanna know more about the originators. Why is an originator so innately superior to an astral king? Seems like the only difference is that it’s easier for a messenger to become one than it would be for any other species. But that doesn’t necessarily make the end product any weaker…
Mist Sparrow
I think it'll be hard for Jason to outbluff/bluster a guy whose sheer age has let him see solar systems die
Maudley
Oh yeah, that's the good stuff!
Ligeia
I like Jamis, too. But he's fighting an uphill battle, both with the Council and with Jason.
Russell Widger
Introduce them to Boris
Robert Landers
Oh nice, a smart biscuit.
J W
Dang I actually hoped to be first but got distracted at release time
Justin
TYFTC!
Azayrian105
Damnit I like Jamis.
james foster
Jason's going to take them to Earth isn't he?
David Petersen
Good meeting. I actually like Jamis as well
Allformsoflight
As mad as I am about what the messengers have done, I absolutely love that Jason still chooses mercy. This is a good direction for someone with all his power to grow.
Jason Markus
Holy fuck this is what I have been subbed for all these years.
JonO
Wow I'm surprised that jamis is even entertaining this thought. Tyftc
Daniel Wills
I do not believe the Uyghurs were directly referenced, but Jason did expose concentration camps in China. That were probably Uyghur camps.
Cyrus McEnnis
Ah, at last. A smart enemy.
Vincent Ciavone
So super random but can anybody confirm or deny if I’m crazy? I keep remembering that canonically Jason exposed the concentration camps of Uyghur Muslims in china. Am I wrong?
Michael Hawkins
I forgot today was Friday. Dear gods
Andrew Johnson
Bizcuts
Mike Zebill
Top 100
John goode
1at Biscuits!
