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The Dieselnoi vs Samart Fight (1982) - the Holy Grail GOAT vs GOAT
🕑 Added 2019-12-18 13:44:27 +0000 UTCThis is very special, incredibly rare. Thank you to one of my patrons who found this footage! This is a public post. (above)
[Edit 2021: Watch the full fight with Dieselnoi's commentary here
Watch the entire card in color with natural stadium audio here ]
There's very little footage of Dieselnoi online, some highlight edits from scraps of video, or "show" fights against non-peak opponents. Almost nothing of him fighting in his prime. The "Holy Grail" of fights would be his "super fight" against Samart Payakaroon, on Christmas Eve of 1982. That fight was never supposed to even happen. One of the top promoters of all time, OneSongchai, appears in a documentary about Samart's career, saying that he didn't agree with that fight and never would have allowed it himself. Indeed, Samart was the best Femeu Fighter of all time, and Dieselnoi the greatest Knee Fighter of all time, but they weren't in the same weight class. Both were unbeatable. For this fight to happen, Dieselnoi had to torture himself down to 129.7 lbs, losing 19 lbs in just a few weeks (he was 135 lbs Lumpinee Champion) and Samart weighed in at 133 lbs (he was 126 lbs Champion). This fight, in addition to being between two absolute superstars of all time, would determine who would be awarded the Fighter of the Year for 1982. Samart had won it in 1981 and Dieselnoi was undefeated as Lumpinee Champion throughout the year... it was a huge deal.
And yet, there was no footage of this fight. Nowhere. There was an exhibition match later on, recreating the mythical matchup, but they're playing. This fight - this is the fight. When it was shared by one of my patrons who found it on an old gym VHS, I couldn't even believe it for a good few minutes, skipping through to see if it was the full fight, checking to see if it was actually Dieselnoi and Samart, inspecting all the little pieces of evidence... but it's real. This is it. The mythic fight.
So Kevin and I raced home to do a "Watch With Me" of this historic, nearly mythical fight. We're literally seeing it for the first time as we watch, although we've both heard about this fight from Dieselnoi many times. I must admit, it looked different from how he describes it, not in that he's wrong but he felt things that aren't visible and those were meaningful to him. Samart as well mentioned elements of the fight that aren't visually distinct, but certainly shaped how he experienced the fight. It's very exciting and I reckon I'll watch this fight many, many times. But you all get the first impressions from Kevin and me, as we see it for the first time. I'd love to watch it with Dieselnoi!
Our Full Commentary and Discussion Version is Above, here is the straight film version:
watch the straight copy of the fight here
The Sessions
In the Muay Thai Library you can watch both Fighters of the Year Samart and Dieselnoi, teach their styles, and the foundations of their techniques:
Dieselnoi (1982):
#48 Dieselnoi Chor. Thanasukarn - Jam Session (80 min) watch it here
#30 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn 2 - Muay Khao Craft (42 min) watch it here
#3 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn - The King of Knees (54 min) - watch it here
Samart (1981, 1983, 1988):
#34 Samart Payakaroon - Balance, Balance, Balance! (81 min) watch it here
Dieselnoi's Interview
You can also watch this interview with Dieselnoi I did for patrons some time back, wherein he covers many things, but also talks at length about his preparations for his fight with Samart:
watch the interview here as a patron
If you want to know how huge a fan I am of Dieselnoi and their fight together check out me completely geeking out when I had a chance to film a show fight between the two of them almost two years ago. So famous was the original fight in 1982 people still get amped watching a re-enactment 36 years later.
If you are new to my patron you can check out the largest documentary archive of legends of the sport, the Muay Thai Library. The table of contents are here.
edit: a huge thank you to my patron, a Finnish Muay Thai trainer, Harri Nieminen of Turku Thaiboxing Club. Turku, Finland who found this footage! This is a public post. (above)
The Muay Thai Bones Podcast
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Comments
Shell
Thanks so much for posting this... extremely cool. I’ve enjoyed reading the comments too! 🤔 🤪🙏🏼x x x
Adrian Lewis
This is extremely rare footage. Is it possible to have the raw video?
Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu
As you've seen the fight, does it look like to you that Sagat did any damage at all? He looked to me and kevin like he kind of quit on the fight after a lack of success. That is why I bought up that I had seen it. Of all fights, this one didn't look like anyone got their teeth knocked out. Did you see it differently?
David Fox
Sadly, just like yourself & Kevin, I also have been asked not to share it. I was not trying to big note by saying that I have it, simply making a point (as you did) that I have seen it. If by some chance I get the green light to post it, I will... in the meantime, here's 90secs that someone posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVu9ZhFX3TM
Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu
Ah! If you have the Sagat and Dieselnoi fight please post it to YouTube! It is not right that the people of history are deprived from seeing what really happened. As to teeth being dislodged, I have no idea. I've just learned that Sagat himself is not reliable for these kinds of stories. But please post that Sagat fight to YouTube, it's one of Dieselnoi's last fights, it's important to his heritage.
David Fox
Champ Boxing Weekly Magazine cover... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157278061329735
David Fox
Thank you and "Harry" for this incredible piece of MuayThai history, it was amazing to finally see it. If you can track any of Dieselnoi's 3 fights against Sagat that would be awesome!
The holy grail has been found
Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu
You are welcome! This is exciting stuff.
Thank you guys for the videos and discussions🙂
