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Chapter 287

🕑 Added 2023-11-20 19:59:00 +0000 UTC
Chapter 287

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Crjourdan

I would love to see Matt use these new mana types and what not to make really cool rifts and most likely new and wild skills!

Nicholas Grey

… I can’t believe I missed that the first time round - “specifically one pertaining to the idea of flames being painted onto a vehicle.”

Nicholas Grey

Hold Rusty strictly to the original terms of the bet - meaning he has to restrict himself to Tier 3 😂

C_Mantis

To prevent people from endlessly asking "Is this whole realm inside a rift" I made a hard rule of no rifts inside a rift

Mister Cakers

Just looked for it. Your confused it was a curse that was lifted. “There did end up being a couple things which Arthur and Liz had missed in their respective healings, including a weirdly persistent transmutation curse centered in his lower spine, designed to transform his bones into a particular metal alloy. Why exactly it tried to do that they weren’t able to discern, but with the curse lifted, he didn’t need to worry about it outside of a follow-up scheduled for a few days later.”

Ryan Romano

Mantis can you somehow work into the universe the Muppets song "Mahna Mahna", and have Team Zero sing it to Matt whenever he walks into a room, or Matt asking how much Mana someone needs and Allie pops in and adds in a "do do da do do, mana mana" and pops back out

Isley

good chappie

Patrick Schuldt

Can they make low tier rifts inside high tier rifts? Or isn't it working at all? I can't remember anything, so it prolly doesn't work. But I want a new mini arc to rift building/science, so many possibilities 😂 PS: Love the story

Thransk

I hope Matt's name is Overwatch. It's probably the most thematically accurate ignoring any connections to the video game. A heavy hitting bruiser that provides cover/distractions for allies? Yessir

Andrew K

Except that if it's enough mana to be worth the trouble of getting him to produce it, it's enough to be noticed and trigger a serious investigation by other powers. That would almost certainly lead to discovery before all that long, and there's pretty much zero chance the relevant treaties would allow such a loophole to exist in the first place, so it would almost certainly be a major violation. And even if it technically wasn't a violation, seems like pretty much no chance the other great powers would stand for it anyway due to the balance of power implications and having an easy claim on the moral high ground (basically the same recipe that resulted in the war that resulted in the creation of the monster collective, just a different end goal for how to fix the relative balance of the powers). Would be far safer in such a situation to just actually kill him and take the win, rather than seriously risk everything on what would objectively be a slim chance at successfully extracting a meaningful long-term benefit.

Phil

Well in a situation where Matt's talent becomes exposed to the powers that be, it would likely end in all the powers teaming up. Excluding maybe the Guilds and possibly the Monster Collective. They'd use the unfairness of monopolizing Matt as an asset as the pretext for a greater war. The truth of the situation is that if the Empire can monopolize Matt's talent they really will outstrip all the other powers combined given enough time. If for no other reason than the ability to tier up planets and power rifts, Matt is an existential threat to the other powers. The Empire would grow so far beyond the other powers it could conquer them through basic diffusion and without even trying. Pretty sure the Emperor himself ruminated on the situation in one of his povs, but when Matt gets exposed it's quite likely all the powers will cooperate to capture matt as an asset, planning to pass him around to 'fairly' share his Talent between themselves. That's the situation of greatest equilibrium under the current status quo.

adam1

He can go infinite with his version of Endurance and his Talent so he generates more stamina than he uses.

Iskrylon

Pretty sure Rusty's mana and stamina are merged into what he calls stamana.

Christopher McCoin

I don't think capturing an ascended is against the rules of war though. If they did it with a higher tier fighter then sure, that's not ok, but we are already seeing the federation making moves to start a total war against the empire and some sort of alliance is likely. They could wear Matt down and capture him with near tier combatants. It's also likely that someone would try to just grab him in a moment of weakness if they thought they could get away with it. It's only illegal if you get caught after all. Wear him down in a big battle and then capture him in the middle of an explosion of some other form of fog of war and claim he's been killed, then pump him for mana.

Hozukimaru.ext

Honestly Mantis could describe that to me with a one paragraph chappie and I’d still feel satisfied just knowing it’s canon

Andrew K

A fundamental problem any individual great power considering this would have to deal with is that it's a play the only provides value in the long term, but fundamentally makes them a giant target for not only violating the laws of war (in a manner not that dissimilar to a concrete case that resulted in the near-immediate end of a previous great power), but simply having Matt at all in the first place (thus making the other great powers want to take Matt from them for the same reason the first one took him to begin with. . .except whoever grabs him *second* would have a much better shot at doing so "legally"). A group of great powers cooperating in such a scheme sort of mitigates some of the short-term downside risk, but would run into a lot of fundamental issues stemming from the fact that the great powers generally don't trust each other that much to begin with, and that the stakes and circumstances are such that being seemingly willing to cooperate on something like would probably look like a giant red flag for impending betrayal. Therefore seems like the only "safe" chance they have is to try to go the aboveboard route of trying to gain access to him through open war instead.

Shmigit

He doesn't have endless if I remember correctly, he's just able to use Stamina in place of Mana for casting skills.

Brian O.

Looks like Aster needs the horny bat to bonk Matt and Liz a few times :p

Allen

I like the corrupting influence Allie is on Aster. Like I'm not saying Aster is sheltered at all. But this the real college experience she didn't get.

Allen

White Borealis and Blue Tide

Namorat

Red Legion has a nice ring. I wonder if the rest will follow the same formula, like White Storm or something along those lines.

A B

Omg Aster "will not be taking questions" from her ice cream cloud/ throne. Wondering now how long until she figures out how to make aurora flavored ice cream

John Balman

LoL oh rusty 🤣😂🤣

Sezra_

Thanks a bunch! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔゞ゛

Phil

right? Hope you're right. there is a lot of story potential there. It could maybe even provide a foundation for his aspect through overcoming such a deeply imbedded fear.

James Faulkner

Here we go 😂

Christopher McCoin

I get that perspective. I just also think it can be handled in a way that is consistent with the established tone. He doesn't have to be tortured, just put into a position where he doesn't have much choice but to cooperate. Also, if they isolate him in a high tier rift in non-empire space I don't see how Lizz or Aster could find him so they may not need to face any permanent consequences from him being captured. This has always been one if his biggest fears and I think it could be a great opportunity for him to sharpen himself against adversity and overcome it. It would probably do incredible things for the strength of his domain and intent.

Phil

Yeah, the plotline behind Matt having to confront such a situation would definitely be fun to read, though it would be super stressful and anger inducing on a first read. A change of pace for sure. The main reason I don't see it happening is because I don't see such a situation happening without deaths or other permanent consequences to people in his circle. The story has so far resisted doing such dark things in the foreground.

Christopher McCoin

Sure, but there is going to be a war over him one way or another. I think it will either start once his ability is known or or Queen completes the path. If there was a war where other great powers are willing to bend or break the rules, it'll be the one over him. Unlimited mana changes everything and someone will always be greedy enough to get stupid.

Dion Crump

If Matt gets captured like that I’m pretty sure it’d spark the true war that the great powers want to avoid. Where low tier worlds are smashed, kings and emperors clash, and the universe unravels

Christopher McCoin

I agree that it won't be this arc, but the attempts are inevitable. More people than ever know about his ability and he is publicly using his talent, whether or not he's partially obscuring it. Someone is going to do the math or someone else will sell him out eventually. I figure a great power will capture him before or during the next great war after this one. All they have to do is get him and Liz at the same time, probably by using higher tier combatants than they are allowed to since his ability is worth breaking rules for. Then they just have to pop them into a tier 35+ rift with a high time dilation like their empire camp so Matt can make solid mana stones at an accelerated pace. With a high tier minder he wont be able to escape. Then they put Liz in a high tier glass orb so she can't magic blood her way out and she is their leverage to get him to make the stones. They'd probably break their paired rings too for good measure to prevent them teleporting or switching places. It would be pretty cool to see Matt seize his eventual chance and see how he gets out of it, maybe by making another kind of super mana to essence explosion like he did in Minkalla, but with his even higher generation and solid mana this time.

Mario Morales

Speed? I am speed.

Tristan R Mitchell

Not ALL wordly possessions. I think Growth Items and other items bonded to your spirit come with

M van Dongen

That last line LMAO.

austin kutz

Doubt it, tbh. This just isn't that kind of story

Forestfire

It was mentioned during Waters checkup

NeverNaught

So what color should this speed force aspect be? red with yellow streaks? Blue lightning?

Phil

That's an interesting idea, but I have a hard time picturing it outside of their trio falling into a trap from one of the great powers. The empire isn't going to let Matt out of it's sight while he is within it's borders so I seriously doubt internal plots. As for outside threats, within the rules of the current war it would be seriously difficult to win against Matt and his team, let alone capture. Also, the other powers have yet to quite puzzle out his mana generation potential. I feel like that would be the thing that eventually shifts the current war into a greater war. A great power having unprecedented ability to make new ascenders is one thing, having access to unlimited mana is something else entirely. If Matt does end up shoved in a box, it would probably be at the beginning of whatever arc follows the current tier 25-35 war arc. Could also be the end of the current arc, but that'd be one hell of a cliffhanger for the published version of this. Maybe some other great power breaks the rules of war and sends out a royal equivalent to capture Matt p.s My idea for the most likely time for Matt to be thrown in a box is actually after he ascends. Going from the top of the food chain to the bottom, leaving all worldly possessions behind, and showing up presumably in a big display of light. I imagine most people who arrive in the greater realms don't have a lot of bargaining power.

Tom

Doesn't Rusty have endless 'stamana' or something like that?

Christopher McCoin

Hate to say it but I think we are getting closer to the point where Matt gets captured and used as a generator.

Phil

Rest in peace Matt. You acheived great things before you died

Havokk

yeah just how dangerous would Matt be with true speed mana combined with endless mana........

Tommy

What thing near his spine? What did I miss! Now I gotta go back and check

Tommy

Thanks for the chapter!

Shane Kelly

I had 2 ideas reading this chapter: 1) Illusions don't like fire but what about Fox Fire, could be fun and 2) for crafting; if you look into how elements came to be, basically Hydrogen went through a supernova to make the lighter elements which all went through another supernova to make the rest. Most elements over 90 had to be man made, what kind of crazy shit must be in the vaults if a tier 35 could just put all of those elements through a few more supernovas with essence to stabilize the result

C_Mantis

this is far more direct. its the difference between knowing someone in in range and radar4

MikeL

Didn’t the teleport rings already have a directional feature? It was mentioned multiple times that Matt could sense Liz’s ring. Did that not have a direction?

Forestfire

Tier 47 king gets dressing down from a tier 25 general because he is interfering in scheduled war plans. Also we may find out about the thing near Matt's spine mentioned last chapter when he gets sewn back together by Melinda...maybe a yin-yang white/black hole

wanderer117

Alicia brought up a recording from a dozen angles and slowed down the recording, but it was the mana that still seemed to go from stable to unstable in an instant. could be Alicia brought up a recording, slowed down and from a dozen angles, but it was as if the mana went from stable to unstable in an instant. One of them was fire mana, and while the intention was for the sample, based on a Fallen Red Star, to provide it as a form of ‘jet propulsion’, the type of fire mana they were using was a bit too consumptive than it should have been. could be One of them was fire mana, and while the intention was for the sample, based on a Fallen Red Star, to provide it as a form of ‘jet propulsion’, the type of fire mana they were using was a bit more consumptive than it should have been. Then his house demanded a Flexible Diamond, which was a bit of a problem, as he couldn’t really bring house to the vault like they had for everything else. should be Then his house demanded a Flexible Diamond, which was a bit of a problem, as he couldn’t really bring his house to the vault like they had for everything else.

Bender

I think we have to call them: Matt Max as he never runs out of mana, Bucket Liz. No cauldron, just a bucket for now.

Bob Bryan

Gotta go fast.

Jonathan Campbell

I've been wondering when he'd show up!

Sean McClain

If Matt gets essences of speed to work and incorporates it into his phantom armor then he could become extremely fast even faster then people of far higher tiers.

Havokk

Matt yells back " I said MAYBE" seriously loved the chapter and the "Red Legion" is great cant wait to get Matts and Asters names. But yeah as long as Melinda is there for heals it should be a long fight... Would be truly amusing if Matt just simply outlasted Rusty based on mana and regeneration lol

Jana

Since Liz and Matt are going back to a little crafting and experimenting during off times I wonder if Liz will take her alchemy a little further. I think bringing in poisons could add so much to her now that she has such exquisite control of blood. Mixing it with something like mist creation (bloodyfied by her talent) would look just epic and due it being perfectly controlled there’s no poisoning allies.

Observer Whimsy

Lmao that’s how you do it. Not a cliffhanger, but I’m still desperate for the next chapter

RedeyeA

How does the increased weight part of the sword interact with the new custom material part of the sword? It would be nice if he could change the weight multiplier when crafting the sword so he could quickly change it with his presets.

Azulmar

Can picture Fridays chapter. "so how long have they been at it?" "Going on 3 months now, Matt can't really hurt Rusty due to his tier and he heals anything Rusty does. For the last week they have just been standing there punching each other in the face and laughing..."

Storyhunter

Rusty gonna go a little nuts. But well endless mana and all that.

Bob Bryan

Kind of expecting Luna to teleport rusty or something similar. And yeah those blood clones have definitely been used in that way before. Looks like it's not just Liz who is lucky 😏

Abriel Blauer

“Matt!” he heard the voice of King Rusty call out, “You owe me a fight!” I'm still laughing. Bet he was waiting for Mel to be back.

MinE

We're definitely going to need a list of mana aspects. At least all the first level, 2nd level, and all the aspect mentioned in the story. It is getting confusing.

MikeL

So Red Legion? Is that 1 name down, 2 to go.

Alex

Rusty :) he has been waiting for this for so long.

kofer99

Haha well Rusty found them

Violet

Oh dear, Rusty finally found them. Matt, it was nice knowing you.

mitchell kaiser

King Rusty will get his due fight!

Deathburn

Nice ork reference

Dan

Flames on a vehicle, I’m dead lol

Fucking Shracc

third

edgardo rossi

Thanks for the chapter

Miguel Canarte

thanks


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