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Echos Chapter 6

🕑 Added 2023-12-13 19:58:01 +0000 UTC

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Spencer Miller

It’s a really nice touch. Connected enough to warrant being here, but acknowledging that, in the end, the person afflicted is the one who will overcome their mental illness.

Donan The Barbarian

Higher tier rift means it's harder for others to break in to find him, and it also means it's less likely to get tiered up and have all previous instances break (either ejecting participants or killing them). Unfortunately unless it's the highest tier rift on that planet and kept unchanged until it's one of the lowest tier rifts on the planet right before the planet tiers up to t40 he's probably not even going to get to hide until the end of Manny's reign due to Matt and the Emperor having access to Matt's Talents

Zadar Thule

Brice PoV should be a nice Epilogue for the series. When he returns in 100.000 years he can see all the wonders the great Emperor Matt created. But he should have picked a lesser rift. In a T35 rift he will have to wait 800.000 years...

Nicholas Grey

I like the fact that it *wasn’t* seeing the Ascension that kicked Albert out of his funk. Good on him!

Ploddingpanda

Thanks for the chapter! Is there anywhere we can read chapters before chapter 42? I wanted to refresh my memory on some of the earlier characters but Patreon only starts from chapter 42. Thank you!

CringeWorthyStudios

Sure, in the story it’s easy but IRL my depression definitely makes it hard to work enough to pay for rent and food. I honestly envy that Albert got to be depressed for 30 years and the worst thing he got out of it was guilt and a difficult social situation to reply to his girlfriend who he’s been ignoring for decades…

CringeWorthyStudios

To be fair, Luna giving you training may as well be a grudge for how painful it is…

Smashadow

Hey do you know when audio book 5 is coming out because I keep looking for it and can't find it

Grzhan

I'm getting some real "Sappho and her friend" vibes with Albert and Juni... :)

Aaron Hardin

That and the over T35 war that will erupt once o5er powers figure

Aaron Hardin

Anything above T35, either cultivators, rifts, or crafter, being used against others breaks the rules.

Alex

Yeah, low level rifts don't have time dilation, but all rifts of the same tier have the same time dilation that increases with tier

Jesse McGillen

Not all rifts are time-dilated.

austin kutz

It'll be hilarious if he gets kicked out of the rift right in front of Matt and just utterly shits himself and begs for mercy. It isn't even that unlikely if Matt does a tour around the empire tiering up all the rifts

austin kutz

More like galaxy sized, iirc. They get to several galaxy sized at the top end of the 30s and at the bottom end of the 40s it's many galaxies. They don't get up to real universe sized until tier 47, and even then they aren't literally as big as the universe since they don't know how big their universe is. That said, there's no intelligent life in a rift, so it isn't like it actually matters much that they're big

Mario Morales

Not that it's great for 800k years but aren't tier 35 rifts like universe size?

wanderer117

If Mat wants to, he could probably get the job of new super emperor of all of creation. His personal mana output at T50 would be comparable to weaker great powers especially if he keeps condensing it. The empire at least is depending on his mana generation to raise their next emperor (since the artificially created planetary cores they normally use had their funding cut due to the incipient wars.) There are a lot of ways this story can go, but the universe is going to be a very different place in even 40k years.

b51015

Mister Cakers, even shadow can’t enter instances that don’t exist anymore (that’s what happens when there’s nobody in them) otherwise spot on. Personally, I think some of the advances caused by Matt are likely to result in rifts tier’ing up or simply being chosen, designed and planned, To tweak the planet’s Mana/essence flow. So he might be kicked out earlier than he expects. still a decent chance MLA has already ascended due to the time it takes to start using new technology/techniques on high tier rifts (35)

Mistfate

I hope so. Maybe alongside other tournament participants? I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen that yet.

b51015

He doesn’t even KNOW that Matt can change anything in an insignificant amount of time. Personally, I think some of the advances caused by Matt are likely to result in rifts tier’ing up or simply being chosen, designed and planned, To tweak the planet’s Mana/essence flow. So he might be kicked out earlier than he expects. still a decent chance MLA has already ascended due to the time it takes to start using new technology/techniques on high tier rifts (35)

MikeL

I think Talous will be the last one. We also got time with Alyssa at the bond academy. Aster telling her who Liz was, was perfect. Nothing more need! I do want more of their close friend’s first conversations with them complaining to them.

MikeL

So a Good reason is that Sara’s mom banned the movie as it made them look bad. Lol.

MikeL

Some where Luna stated that as the level of rift get higher your level to enter after increases and you need to be MUCH higher. A tier 35 rift I think can’t be entered after maybe only by a T50.

dontputmeonyourlist

brice punishing himself is a nice touch.

austin kutz

It's totally going to happen

Mister Cakers

It’s been shown before but you can enter an active rift instance, even after it’s been instanced by being a lot higher tier than the rift and expert intent control/(spatial manipulation?). The thing shadow can do is enter an instance that both: is higher tier. And even when no one’s in there with the simple caveat that she has to have been there long enough.

C_Mantis

damn good catch. fixed

Havokk

We are all our own worst tormentors, both the former King and Prince show this. The King cant see how anyone would act any differently than he would so in turn fears the punishment he would dispense and will suffer with fear and desperation of the blow that will never come. The Prince feels his failures, which can truly all be placed at his fathers feet, and has spiraled from that. Fortunately Albert has something his father never had in friends in both Juni and Sara who truly care for him. Hopefully he will recover, while we all know Bryce never will

CringeWorthyStudios

We probably will soon.

Isaac Boyles

I'd enjoy that

Maakolo

Imagine the reaction if he comes out of the rift and the situation is that one minkalla reality of where Matt goes for authority.

M3lvyn

it would be the other way. he needs to hide for 100k years of real time. so i would be like 595 years inside.

Neocorupt

Just wondering I thought the former king got a staff and the gauntlets were for the queen

Corwin

If you're talking about BOC, it hasn't happened, and probably won't. I'm pretty sure it was just a reference to Jin wanting yo make his own "heaven on Earth."

Deathburn

Yeah, but they still would've left an impact

Skyra

Shadow can't get into rift without waypoint being there first.

Blake Noyes

I feel like in 100k years they would’ve already done their 30k run as emperor and queens then ascended

Skyra

The story reason is that it is a closed off military instalation housing most important military assets Empire has.

Blake Noyes

Spoilers damn. I’m only at start of arc 3

Blake Noyes

It’s worse than that. He wants to wait 100k years on the outside. With the 8x time dilation in a tier 35 rift that means staring at walls for 800k years

Adurna

This was a really enjoyable update I was not aware I wanted :)

Alex

Mara can probably track him to the planet and find the rift. But she can't look into the rift instance. You have to be a minimum of double the rifts tier. They would need to hire a very very specialized rift breacher. Finding one instance without any connection to it and having never been in that instance before is difficult.

Alex

Ehm. Regular ascenders have a reputation for being unreasonable. And an ascender daughter of Leon and Mara? It is a logical assumption that she would hold a grudge based on the information he has. Even Darrow keeps getting surprised that MLA follow orders and agree to stuff without complaining or stabbing, punching people in walls or drowning them. If he had pissed off Duke waters, I can totally see him coming back for revenge

Myke IsHere

I really think that some of these Echos Chapters should make it to the final book, they add a lot of interesting stories.

Alex

I want melinda. She knew their masks since the T10 tournament

austin kutz

Lol, you think Matt is going to pull a Jin and cause the entire realm to ascend?

Alex

I also doubt she didn't have any relationships in the meantime. Doesnt mean she doesn't care about Albert. Who knows.

Alex

No. All T35s have the same time dilation. But a T35 instead of T25 was chosen because it has time dilation and its the highest they're allowed to go without breaking the rules somehow. Also that way Duke waters and the higher tier support staff can be in the rift too

Alex

1:8

Alex

Just because he would do it, doesn't mean everyone else is such a bad person. Even Mara didn't do anything more to him but sent him to do forced labor for a couple years and return his secret treasures to the kingdom.

Alex

I agree that sara should've known they gotten married. Its not like their marriage was a secret, and they are part of Leon's kingdom. They should've known. They are pretty shitty politicians if they didnt

Alex

In 100k yrs they may be gone. 57k yrs if Aster really goes through with becoming queen and the 30k yr rule doesn't get an exception for her to keep Matt in the realm longer :) though even then, they would probably leave eventually anyway. They're not even 200 yet. They will probably get bored eventually. Brice doesn't know that they don't care about him :) at least not enough to mess with him like mara did. The queen will be fine too. I doubt anybody but Luna knows about it and Luna doesn't hold a grudge. She still gave the queen a training book.

Alex

Being able to afford basic necessities isn't difficult. Worst case they could've moved to a cheaper lower tier planet.

Alex

That rift is in the center of the empires military headquarters. Practically the whole planet is a giant military base, right next to the capital and with a million security protocols. :D even if it was the same, it wouldn't matter cause he would have his own instance

Alex

100k yrs will be 800k inside the rift though.

Abriel Blauer

The problem is, this is what Brice himself would do in their place You always believe people will act like you would

Too funny

Storyhunter

The bits about the lvl 36 king hiding in a rift...... With our neighborhood teleporter running around is slight comical. Hoping the defeated prince can wake up from the depression funk. 100,000 years... And whoops it's gonna be a party.

Sacchito22

An excellent point, all in good time in sure.

SodaBoBomb

Wasn't their rift chosen specifically because it has a higher time dilation?

Dion Crump

Feels like a Thanos moment. “You took everything from me!” “ I don’t even know who you are” Also is there a reason we call them echos instead of Ripples?

Ford

I'm sure there's some story reason this can't be true, but wouldn't it be a fun twist if the rift that Brice chose to hide in was the same t35 rift that Team Zero operates out of?

Matt H

I suspect both he and Alyssa are still coming at some point since they were pretty heavily requested once upon a time. I'm also a little surprised we haven't seen more perspectives from Matt and Liz's friends.

Tener

He was shown to watch a street for 1.5 just doing nothing. He probably will be extremely paranoid, but possibly alive. A meditation or hibernation of sorts could work too

Corwin

It's 8 times normal, iirc. Team Zero's base is in a Tier 35 rift. That would be 800,000 years.

Nathan Sto

It's a very fitting end for someone like that. They're punished how they would punish others, but without dragging down better people in the process.

Mistfate

YEEEEEAAAAAAH!! WOOOOOO! Ty. Kind of surprised we didn't see Talous but I'm not dissapointed.

Violet

We know Albert didn't fall apart immediately, because we know he's only been in his bout of depression for 30 years. That said, there's no actual indication that Sara still has feelings. Albert frames things like she does, but Albert is also not exactly a reliable narrator.

Violet

I imagine Sara probably didn't bother to go watch a propaganda film about the other side of a war she lost (if only technically).

Violet

Damn, Albert got 30 whole years to be depressed when everything he'd ever planned for himself turned out to be impossible. Must be nice not having to wake up and figure out how you're going to feed yourself the next day. This message brought to you by the "my dreams were destroyed and all I got was this passive-aggression" gang.

Phil

Lmao. He exits to the reign of Empress Aster, and just quietly walks back into the rift.

Stephen Weinberg

The final epilogue of POA will be a review of how Matt has reshaped the realm as seen through the eyes of Brice.

adam1

800,000 years. It's 8-1 time dilation, just like the rift Team Zero is in.

Phil

I mean she came on pretty strong during the vassal war, but it wasn't quite stalker levels. I choose to believe Prince Albert didn't fall apart right away and they made like friends before he closed up over time. Depression comes in many forms and sometimes its a weight that gets harder and harder to carry over time.

adam1

Yes, but they'll all live for at least 1,000 years and most likely become immortal. On their scale, this is a couple of years compared to us.

MikeL

You would think that that Juno and Sara would know more about MLA. There was just a major Pather War movie with them very recently. I would have assumed since they were also likely in it that they would have seen it. Sara at least should have know they were married.

Phil

It's honestly kinda funny to see the fallen king Brice act like this, especially knowing just how little he means to any of the parties he is worried about. He may as well not exist. But he is running scared because he knows just how spiteful he is, and pushes that expectation onto everyone else.

Stephen Weinberg

What is the time dilation of a Tier 35 again? 1week = 1hr? That would be 168x. 100,000 years * 168 would be 16.8 million years. I refuse to believe that a non-introvert like the King would consider that a viable option to death. How many people exist in the Realm who can claim to be that old subjectively? I just don't think he could be sane after that.

MinE

Im going to be honest, it’s actually pretty smart for the wrong reason. Even if Mara or Matt and co planned on killing him, they would view his self induced exile as far worse. P.s It would be funny if as soon as he got out, he got all his rewards, but they’re so out of date their worthless.

Eofad

So how long is 100 thousand years in T35 Rift Time Dilation?

SCDarkSoul

Lmao the ex-King. Mara and Leon are just crazy. Liz isn't that bad. They probably don't even remember you.

Zachary Blevins

It’s been like 180 years that’s a long time to have a crush on a guy I want to say it’s romantic, but what I’m really thinking is this girl got a real stalker vibe going on

Sacchito22

Aaaaw, I was kinda hoping to see that other pather mentioned too, the guy Matt beat into the floor for insulting his parents in the vassal war. "He was ready" my a**, he's gonna s*** bricks and his spine watching the Ascension with his brother.

Stephen Weinberg

Tier 35 is high enough that short of a super high tier talent, no one is finding him.

Dominic Harney

Matt Moore Alexander: God-Emperor of the Empire of Ascension

Bob Bryan

I never really had a problem with Albert after I saw how bad his father and older brothers were. Dude really was trying his best to fix his area up and rule it well.. Honestly those 3 pos deserve far worse and him, Sarah and juni deserve some happiness. Former king deserves to be eaten by one of those Giant worms.

Nathan

Oh that king… Liz doesn’t even know you and you hide

adam1

He'll be in that rift for almost a million years with time dilation.

Blake Noyes

Fully fits what we’ve seen of his character, but still

Blake Noyes

What an inflated ego on this guy that he thinks he matters to people who were in their 20s when they met him almost 200 years ago

Thomas Brusilovsky

Poor Brice is going to come out into a universe he can barely recognize lmao. Now I’m curious how many other people like him there are, where you get a random like tier 40 stepping out of a rift and discovering that they are now in a different great power or whatever lmao.

austin kutz

Dude is really prepared to stare at walls for 100,000 years just to avoid anyone that might have ever known what he did. That's dedication if I've ever seen it. And is he really dumb enough to think that no one can find him there? Hell, I bet Mara can still *see* him like a child thinking he's hidden just because he can't see someone himself

Azulmar

Now we need a epilogue that starts "one hundred thousand years later.."

Bender

Ttfc. Lacked the oomph of previous Echoes, but still enjoyable. Brice segment esp was lol worthy.

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

Neil

That is some serious paranoia, honestly quite impressive to have such an ego that you believe that you inspire 100,000 years of vengeance in somebody after such a small interaction.

James Faulkner

*Bryce leaves the rift to find that Matt is considered a God*

Vayash

Theirs an old saying about paranoia and a hall of mirrors thay I cant remember. But the jist of it is they dont need to do anything to Brice. He'll punish himself because of his fear of what HE would do in their place.

Envoy

First echo chapter I didn't care much more. The last part with the fallen king was fun though. Stupid but fun.

Devin

brice panicking when literally everyone forgot about his sorry ass

Chakfor

ROFL, that Brice PoV is priceless. Poor dude has Matt and Liz living rent free in his head, and they don't even know (or care) that he exists. Good to see that Juni and Albert are getting back on track, though!

Tsorov

I think that old king 1. severly overestimates his own importance to Mara, Leon, and MLA, and 2. sevierly underestimates what Matt can change in that long of a timespan

Jana

Albert is really really lucky with a Friend like Juni. While do not particularly care for Albert for Junis sake I hope for a good future for both of them.

Observer Whimsy

Aster is going to be universal queen when he comes out lmao

Teatime42

God that's going to be the most hilarious random story but at the end of the story. And everyone will be responding with "who are you again?" Too XD

Deathburn

Oof, Matt's infinite mana is gonna change so much and he will be a caveman entering the space age when he leaves

Tyftc

Luna_1001

Woo lets go


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