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Chapter 298

🕑 Added 2024-01-08 19:59:07 +0000 UTC

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Abigail Hale

This chapter slapped like a MF. You had me rooting for a Elkdren there for a minute!

Phil

Ngl, some of my favorite chapters to read are the horror story povs following those who fight against the main cast. It can get old if over done, but its rare for me to feel that way.

Sandy

Mantis, if you still accepting ideas for cool missions - rescuing high value asset from one of the Great Power, for example a spy with vital information or something like that.

Namorat

“Putting actions to worlds“ - words

Calista

I wouldn't say he's incompetent. He analyzed the tactical situation and made reasonable combat decisions based on his knowledge, education, the mission and the needs of his government. His internal dialog, thinking he killed Liz / Torch, wasn't particularly realistic; but is he expected to know that?

Andre cook

No chapter today?

Istyatur Elestel

Another major factor is the empire is strong and growing stronger at an astonishing rate. The sects and federation aren't and won't be in a position to conquer them anytime soon, but the empire just got it's 3rd active ascenders. If their growth continues they will be able to steamroll her and everyone else. Better devil's you can manage than an eldritch god you can't.

Kenneth

One of the bigger contributions to keeping the alliance alive is the fact that the leader of the Republic is basing a huge portion of her actions on past trauma. She has entire worlds locked away from the rest of the universe to "protect them" from how horrible the reality kf cultivation is. She is irrationally afraid of the Empires tradition of awakening every citizen once they reach a certain age. It doesn't matter that the Sects and Federation are the exact thing she is really afraid of. For whatever reason, shes attached the Empires forced awakenings to her trauma. The Empire is the devil, everyone else are just demons.

Bob Bryan

Japan and Germany were definitely not going to let the other exist if the axis won. Germany also would of made the Italians slaves if they won. In addition the west and Russia split not long after ww2. Let's not even get started on what they did to Eastern Europe. All immortal means is they have that much longer to stubbornly believe they are the best and will crush the other 2 after beating the empire

Paper_Link189

I think you are forgetting Stalin and Hitler's pact in the early years of WW2. Both side hated each other, but had objectives on occupying the land between them. It only fell apart after Hitler decided he didn't need the truce anymore.

Observer Whimsy

The fragility of our worlds diplomacy is a salient point, but i think genuine immortal rulers would change the game a fair bit. Historically, the longest lived nation rulers are only in power for some 50 years tops, and that’s incredibly unusual, whereas great powers are basically controlled by gods among gods that can choose to live forever.

Fleetpanda

Nobody was saying she isn’t really strong. It’s just that the caliber of an ascender isn’t how good you are when you’re defending a prepared position. It’s how good you are when you’re tired, weak, and facing impossible odds. I think Aster will get there, but at the moment if she doesn’t have a ice fortress she’s the squishiest of the bunch, which is a weakness in an ascender team that prides itself on its toughness. I think evolving to aurora will fix a lot of it, giving her illusions to defend with.

egondro

This doesn’t take into account of the history or deep rooted oppression and hate. This would have bred a level of hate and fear that would supersede the politics for a long time. It outlasts generations and considering life spans, generations haven’t occurred with some of the leadership so Monser Collective wouldn’t forget. Hell knowing the power the beast wield in the empire should speak to the collective that even operating through proxy would be more preferable than the alternative. They would slip their own special people with an agreement of staying hidden under an operation command of the phoenix to secretly hurt the federation and make them bleed more via someone else’s hand. That would be the real politics of the day not this weird noncommittal fear thing. Also the limit of higher tier people and actions doesn’t really make the reaction of the path seems logical on the global scale. I mean simply banding together to say pathers have to level up quicker or face embargoes seems a more realistic response on this scale. Certainly doesn’t help with the story though so yea. Does take the story out of character development into the kill and grind mode quite a bit though. Hopefully this war ends sooner and later so the MC’s can’t get back to crafting and leveling adventures to have some personal growth. Or maybe mix that into the war campaign more. You have a collection of people that could real make something earth shattering if he wanted to.

Tom Henman

Think in terms of percent of leadership life span instead of years. As to declaring war immediately after there have been time where things were close to that and even now we have some supporting those who wish them ill. (Not going any more into that as too political.)

adam1

Actually, some of the Enpire POV chapters had people referring to other Powers' Ascenders. I think the Minaklla floor 7 chapter had a good example. It doesn't seem like the misnaming is any kind of a thing, culturally.

Corwin

I get that, but those alliances were also very fragile and prone to breaking apart rather than lasting hundreds of years. I also can't recall any where one considered working with somebody who directly said they were going to declare war on them immediately afterwards.

C_Mantis

Look at european history with the great powers of the time. England, France, Spain, Austria, Poland. They were more than willing to band together with someone they hated to take done anyone who was getting too big. Its not about friends but politics and preventing anyone from becoming too strong.

Corwin

This chapter really highlights my confusion with the factions attacking the Empire. I get why the Sects and the Federation would work together, and I definitely understand how the Corporations would be willing to sell their services to either of them, but I can't understand how the Republic would work with the Federation. Everything that has been shown from the Republic indicates that they actually care for their citizens, which seems completely at odds with the callous disregard that the Federation and Sects have for their people . It seems strange that they would be willing and able to to work together. At the very least I would have expected some plotlines aimed at exploiting some rifts between them, but the war has been going for a very long time with nothing even hinting at any dissent. The reaction of the Monster Collective seems strange as well. The Federation all but declared war on them when they declared war on the Empire, and they completely ignored it. In fact, they acted like they wanted to go after the Empire for some reason, rather than the people who literally said that they would destroy the Collective when they finished with the Empire.

Albadia

I think the perspective is great though. like we knew how great Aiden was but this is MLA going 3vsArmy, lower tier than the regular troops and they’re decimating. Ascenders are built different

Len

its worse than that she can completely reform from her blood AND she is a PHOENIX. you know the race that LITERALLY gets reborn when they die. she leaves "blood clone" at the base (if she can keep the link that distance) all her "bodies" on the mission die. she is fine. weird side thought. if all her clones are blood, and are all " her" due to her powers and one dies, since she is a phoenix, does said rise from the ashes? her powers are a bit weird so in a weird logic, it might work. probably won't because that would cause a weird tangent story even if by accident.... risen/reborn blood clones ARE Liz reborn, with a unique "cloned" soul now due to having died and been reborn via bloodline.

Kain

Eh not really cartoonish to me. Just standard fascist/hyper nationalist dogma with some added speciesism mixed in I just despise that more than like you said callous straight forward might makes right of xanxia world.

The Grey Mage

From what we’ve seen the Tier 50 is specifically controlling them to be this way, so I imagine everyone who doesn’t fall in with that becomes fodder for the Propaganda Machine.

BurnNote

It might have been when it was newly introduced, until everyone else reverse engineered it and that's how you get the potions everyone uses (those have been mentioned in several chapters, Liz just takes it further with her blood stuff). These days, it's probably just a control mechanism, because it's definitely not addictive, the boss said so. The other nations (even the godawful Sects) don't go for that kind of nasty.

BurnNote

Endless is the concept, dauntless is the intent

M van Dongen

Yes Scoop is the weakest link. Relatively speaking. She still finished the Path succesfully. And Matt and Liz seem quite unique as far as their power levels go. Comparatively she's still miles beyond Joe McGrunt.

Mister Cakers

After thorough investigation we’ve found the serums to be pretty cool guys seriously you gotta try it.

M van Dongen

Just a few Centuries of selective News Agency psyops and drug cocktails. You can see it happening IRL with people still thinking cloth masks did anything statistically significant. The data on cloth masks was old b4 the covid pandemic happened.

M van Dongen

Standard play would be for the people that ddidn't drink the flav-aid to have "accidents". We can see it happening in Russia quite frequently. And we can see it with Epstein as well. The actual data of the autopsy and the circumstances suggest something other than "suicide". Now add all the powers a trillion people state has access to and imagine the kind of "accidents" it could generate. We saw it happening to the Super Soldier that "failed" his folded reflections Level on Minkala.

Colin Groh

Sick chapter! Exactly what I was thinking about when I suggested the frozen world thing a few chapters ago. Not sure if you spun this off of my idea or someone else's, but Scoop's Fortress with an army of Liz swooping through it and Matt outside stopping the big guns from firing on her looks like such a dominant strategy. Grats to the squads for killing a single torch clone. Medals to all

Matt

Yep, gotta keep that torch burning.

Forestfire

Pun intended?

Tom Henman

And probably meant to drain resources (mana) but that does not work so well with Matt...

Sanairb

What a great chapter.

MikeL

Game over, man!

Matt

This was beautiful but horrible. These massed soldiers who are weaker than kittens in comparison to MLA didn't stand a chance. And they are powerful. They know it. (The drugs help.) But the drugs also add to their power. Against an army they would do well. Against an ascender they are litteral walking blood donors.

Andrew K

To 99.999...% of the populations, the differences between the nations' relevant program are irrelevant - all that matters is that their success stories are nightmarishly dangerous to anyone at the same tier except a handful of peers. Only high-ranking members of the military and political establishments and those heavily involved in the programs themselves would really be expected to care enough to make the distinction (especially given the different languages also in play).

Andrew K

Given how the serum those soldiers are on must be subject to serious-scale mass production and distribution (and for quite some time), I doubt there's anything important the Empire doesn't know about it (and this make available to Liz). Alternate formulas for the real elites would probably be the only thing with any real hope of keeping information well-enough locked down to be possible for the Empire to still need to discover anything new about.

Haikaiko

This chapter feels like a cold hard slap to the face of all of us fans, myself included, who mused Aster wasn't quite Ascender caliber like the other two... and I for one love it. Her item that makes enemies underestimate her magic attacks + a 'harmless' layer of snow that flash freezes to death anyone who so much as stands on it... chefkiss NOW you're thinking like a top tier murder fox, Aster.

Bob Bryan

Happens alot In real life. Do you realize how many commanders though history were incompetent. The Roman's looked down on the Gaul's and then lost 3 legions in what Is now Germany and same up in Britain. Napoleon looked down on the Russian winter. Plus they are raised in what is essentially nazi Germany meets the humans in halo, with their own evil spartan program. Of course the lower level guys would have drunken the flavor aid by now.

Tim Johnson

i would guess a bit of both. Keeps the troops indoctrinated and probably some sort of natural treasure alchemy to strengthen them.

Lorevi Q

It does seem kinda cartoonishly evil. The sects is just classic Xianxia callousness. Not really deliberately evil they just don't value life. The Feds though seem like an amalgamation of evil country tropes and propaganda fear mongering lol.

hachetnif

Yeah I'm enjoying it when we see it from there perspective they don't seem like monsters or inhuman but from other person's perspective how can a human do that and so on

hachetnif

The way I see it is you never blame the people on the bottom because they are always the tools for the top Yes he's doing all this and you can even see the reasons why he's doing all this but ultimately I believe that they were meant to die as in sent to their deaths for information so the next group can actually put up a fight

Pannath

My biggest issue is how all the other powers can't seem to use the correct terminology. I realize that 'Slayer' is the Federation Equivalent of an Ascender, but the Empire personnel refer the the other powers using correct terminology. An Ascender is not a Hero or a Slayer, etc... each power's version of the Path is different. I wish they'd refer to people correctly, even if out of spite, like spitting the word 'Ascender' implying they weren't the equal of their own Slayers or something. Please

Zachary Blevins

Ouch that’s a rough way to go

Storyhunter

Frosted fed. How Quaint.

Envoy

That's not an argument. He can be as amazing as you think when facing weaker opponents, it doesn't change that he's not anywhere near ascender-power nor anyone on his squad so thinking that they had managed to kill Torch so quickly and easily is stupid. If that's the quality of the Federation's captains then there's truly nothing to worry about.

Daniel S

Propaganda is one hell of a drug

Kain

So the feddie’s are confirmed the worst lol, I mean we knew this from the rune soldier program and the shit they did while being the top great power. But still If this is what their standard rank and file soldier think and act like I might legit hate their society more than the sects.

Sezra_

Thanks a bunch! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔゞ゛

Melody Haren Anderson

I heard about a shooter called Haze, about fratboy like guys who are mercs and are hopped up on heavily addictive and mentally affecting combat drugs. Consider that along with they JUST had their "serum" treatments. Do you think the Federation really told them the truth about the serum? If I had a guess, the serum is supposed to long term just make them a bit more pliable, bit more willing to obey foolish commands, but while it's fresh and hasn't degraded, I suspect it might have far more negative effects on their ability to reason by increasing fanatical bravery.

Dominic Harney

It’s nice to have an outside opinion of what a slayer is like. With the MLA chapters it is sometimes hard to understand how powerful they are compared to other people. I wonder if Liz is gonna get a fresh new upgrade from the serums floating around in the feddies blood.

Jeff Wells

I didn't feel like he was incompetent, just severely outmatched. If he were fighting another Empire or Guild army he'd probably do just fine. The Federation goes heavy into brainwashing. We saw that with the super soldiers they sent into Minkala. After thousands of years you either go all in on drinking the koolaide, or you have yourself a little accident in a rift and are never heard from again.

SunStar

Matt is dauntless and endless. :)

Jana

You are right but I noticed that everyone in that chapter acts a little strange, well everyone who takes that cocktail of drugs. Over enthusiastic, easily riled up to the point they disobey orders… I think the Drugs might have some side effects, the feds are known to us for devaluing human lives and I think that the Drug keeps their minds in a certain space - the higher up you are the less influenced but elkdren is only one step up from the bottom so a part of his hybris might be induced.

Kelly Bryan

The Princess of Frozen Stars is fulfilling her promise to bring Winter to the outside world! Also, not surprised coming from a Feddie but the beast bond hate really makes their deaths satisfying.

Tijay Arnie

Their bunghole could be very tight, for all you know

Tijay Arnie

Isn't Dauntless one of his things? Or am I confusing Endless with another characters thing

Renegade

Yeah but you can just says its cause shes a dragon and thats the only reason why.

sambee

You have to make sure to Kill Quill too since he might be holding some blood in reserve.

Envoy

To me Elkdren sounds incompetent as fuck. How did he become captain with that brainless head of his? Did he really think that the Empire is 100% propaganda like their own GP? Ascenders aren't fake. Torch can't be so easily killed by weaklings like them. He both way overrated his own squad's power while way underrating the enemy. Poor leadership. I really enjoy how much of a nightmare the ascenders are on the battlefield. Finally getting to see how truly powerful they are. Matt should easily be a top 2 (and he's not 2) strongest within 5 tiers across all GP so I'm glad we got to see how feared he is even compared to his peers.

Matt H

Which is really strange considering Lila Worldwalker is a bond as well. There's no team to carry her weight or hide her supposed weakness. Her prowess and legacy are hers and hers alone.

Martin Banks

I thought it was interesting that the captain was addressing aster as a slayer in his head even though he was calling her a false slayer like some Freudian slip

RedLeaf

Thanks for the chapter! The POV from the "common soldier" was just terrifying .... and a great way really highlighting just how nasty Ascenders are.

dontputmeonyourlist

a large portion of monsters in horror media are scary because they never stop coming after you. matt is kind of the embodiment of what we find fundamentally scary. 99.999% of people who can legally attack him cant hurt him and he can keep going at near 100% multiple times longer then a similar portion of people.

Alex

I want an echo from the rune soldier guy that left the federation after Minkalla

Tomi .

You just had to end on a cliff hanger Mantis, you just had to huh? 😭😭

Greg Lambert

Really good chapter of how the enemy sees our team.

Jeff091

hi, thanks for the new chapter typo but she wasn’t [+Word] to do more than +able /capable/powerful enough

Mokuyobi

Easily my favorite chapter in awhile. I love getting the different perspectives, especially in active fights. Keep up the excellent work!

James Faulkner

Goddamn, Aster is terrifying and that’s disregarding how Matt is a God of Destruction and Liz is a monstrosity to pretty much anyone below Ascender level

Anime Problem

His horror is of the meaninglessness of fighting him their horror is the visceral and the bending of what's real and what's fake

Anime Problem

This is exactly what I wanted I think I mentioned this in my comment during the ascension chapter or slightly after it that the most impact full way we could be reintroduced to Matt, Liz, and Aster in the war was starting with an enemy's POV because it shows the difference in a way that the MCs POVs can't

Discordian23

I out loud said this is Horrible while reading this. Like they were completely fucked they stood no chance and The Trip weren't even serious, they just herded them towards Aster. Fighting Liz is a lesson in Futility. "Ooh yay we Killed her"

JauPim

Yay, we finally burnt all her blood! Eh, why aren't those flames going out?

Chioke Nelson

Ok that was fucking sick!

Constantin

breath taking chapter, thanks

Jana

The Federation seems to be big on body enhancement, while I see a ton of potential there so far the results seem lacking. But this could be an interesting case for Liz, no? Does the freshly dosed up blood feel different? I can see something like higher mana content etc. If Liz manages to reverse engineer part of the potions or just take some inspiration she might be able to match Matts „limitless“ potential.

Violet

Aster and Liz are a horror show. At least Matt doesn't fuck with your head or pull jump scares on you. He just disintegrates you with overwhelming power.

Violet

Not much point filling in your cannon fodder on how the Ascender-class of fighters fight. They aren't going to survive an encounter either way. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if the Federation distributes propaganda suggesting that the Ascenders are weaker than they actually are for morale purposes. No point in telling your cannon fodder they have zero chance of survival, after all.

Havokk

Okay this one actually gave me a cold chill, and looking outside its actually snowing........ Dammit Aster. Was I the only one that thought "That poor poor man this isnt going to end well for them " the moment I realized just who they were to be deployed against? First you get Slayer Quill who just evaporated a very large part of the army with just the wave of his hand then to run into Slayer Torch and think you got a very very costly win only to realize the win was against a clone and finally to be lost in the inescapable frozen doom in the form of Slayer Scoop who you and all your comrades so easily dismissed. Yup not a good day to come off a healing downtime.

Cross

"The serums aren't addicting, we've investigated it ourselves and found nothing" Hmmmmmmmm where have I heard that before?

Skyra

Damn Fedies are delusional.

Forestfire

This was like reading a first hand account from the marines in Aliens.

Bob Bryan

This is also why you deal in tangible facts and not idiotic specisim when making military strategy or anything really.

mitchell kaiser

Fantastic chapter, these kinds of chapters help show how scary ascenders actually are. Keep up the great work Mantis!

Darune Albane

Yes you are first in the barrel with an open bunghole 😁😂🤣

Istyatur Elestel

Oh no, She just killed a few people and used their blood to make two new Torchs.

MikeL

Then every drop of blood in the entire system. No problem!

WhiteRabbit

Man. They are a nightmare squad

Chakfor

Come into my web said Aster to the Feddies

Teatime42

bUt ShE's NoT a ReAl AsCeNdEr XD

MinE

Are the serums just glorified drugs or do they actually have a permanent boost? P.S Are they a form of mind control?

ForTheAfro

Those sons of bitches downplaying the wonderful Aster and all bonds. Federation sucks. Bonds are the best in any series

Gunnar Crider

"but she wasn’t (able?) to do more than the fire mages to the giant structure before them." Loved the chapter. Though it's surprising how little they knew about torch.

Stephen Balinski

Thanks for the chapter! litoney > litany tenderals > tendrils

Authorii

Those aren't bad ascender names lol

0x0F

We killed Torch!! only need to repeat it 150 more times!!

Bender

Some serious flexing going on here. Lovely!

Authorii

So was this Aster's tier 25 coming into play a little? If so that is very neat, and these people seemed to really underestimate the hype that surrounds ascenders

C_Mantis

Reread of the early chapters a few months ago and I cribbed some names for future use.

SCDarkSoul

Hah, Exlor and Ves? Somebody reading The Mech Touch?

William Johnson

So, better the beam, the blender or the blizzard? How do you want to die?

Bob Bryan

Well they took a calculated risk but damn are they bad at math.

Arvid

Thanks

Austin

Thanks for the chapter!

Fucking Shracc

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