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Chapter 377

🕑 Added 2024-11-11 19:59:01 +0000 UTC

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JJB4345_80_815

I had trouble with the entire Celestial/Divine/God/Origin nomenclature, but that ending was so good I was forced to up my membership tier. I have a feeling that I'll be bumping up my tier more after reading the next couple of chapters. Happy New Year!

KnightRider007

I think he *was* 25, existing while resisting against the pull of Ascension like our story's T50s. Then he had an Inspiration, tiered up to 26, and was forcibly Ascended. Note that they have specific names for each Tier. Then, "He was still reeling from those facts when six people at his same still unnamed realm appeared next to him soundlessly and without a ripple of Star Power." So his UNNAMED Realm was T26 - unnamed, because Realms don't go that high in his native universe. And the people who find him (our main characters) are at the same realm, and we know that they're T26 (We know for certain MAL are, and L&S were, by definition, *peak* T25 at the end of the war, and could thus Tier up at any time they wanted)

KnightRider007

I'm sensing a little bit of sword-supremacism here :P Liz will set him straight.

KnightRider007

He could also feel the foulness that the caption had talked about. => "the captain" He could feel the Star Power power brimming from deeply hidden wells of Star Power scattered around the area => looks odd to have "Star Power" repeated twice so close together Except this mountain wasn’t in snow covered mountains but was instead in a desert => perhaps "wasn't in a snow-covered range"? Settling down, he knew he once he reclaimed his connection to the Sky => "he knew that once he reclaimed"

Joseph Jenkins

I wonder if this guy will be Aunt Helen's new husband. She mentioned that it should only be a few centuries and I think we're closing in on that time

KnightRider007

At first I also thought he Ascended twice, but on closer reading, I think the first one was just him moving to a higher-Tier world. Their “Sky Paths” may be some form of natural Gate conduit

Julie Smith

Woof! What a download! It wasn't until Ra'Thala Ascended that I understood how this chapter fit with the previous one. Now he's met our Main Characters (MLA) and Manny. It seems Allie was involved as well, doing taxi duty. My big question is, how does a Level 25 Ascender fit into the Sophon Empire? I know it's a big deal, but how and why is it a big deal? If he's truly at the level of MLA, that alone is a BIG DEAL. I hadn't considered that until now, but it seems likely.

Joshua Holler

Brilliant timing for me to finally catch up, right in the middle of the break week. After the alt-pov chapter, I can’t wait for the next few chapters

Sean McClain

Remembering it's break this week is sad times for all

Alex

I think the implication is that people in Ra’thala’s Realm awaken with Inspirations (or monsters if they can do it without getting caught), then advance with ambient essence. It’s possible that monster essence has deleterious effects in the lower Realm, but my gut is telling me that noble-types in the lower Realm disseminated the lie that you shouldn’t advance with monster essence to prevent widespread cultivation.

Arlano

T26 probably. Like all the Empire Ascenders. Which would make his realm of origin a 25 tiers realm.

Draega

Interesting. I can’t quite tell if the rules of this lower reality are different, or if everything is just renamed and coming from a different perspective/understanding of the same stuff. That realm seems to have had rifts, but also didn’t seem to rely on them hardly at all as a means of advancement and even saw them as detrimental. Does that make them mini Sword Saint Hastors advancing through enlightenment?

Alex

I think some of the rules would actually be different - particularly surrounding things like Skills and Rift drops. Way back in the training planet arc, Liz drops a little info nugget that Rift-reward health potions changed color from green to red at some point in recorded history. The prevailing theory is that the Realm changed the drop to reflect the popular belief that a health potion should be red instead of green, which suggests that the Realm itself is a reflection of the collective consciousness of the cultivators who live in it. If the cultivators in another Realm have a significantly different view of cultivation, then it stands to reason that the other Realm would be significantly different to reflect that difference in collective belief. Furthermore, it makes sense for Skills to be inherently different in the Lower Realm based on the Skill Tiers in the Tier 50 Realm. The Skill Tiers in the T50 Realm are 8, 14, 20, 26, 32, 38, 44, and 50. These numbers don't make any sense in a Tier 25 Realm: you'd assume there would have to be a skill Tier at Tier 25, which suggests that the Skill Tiers would probably be something along the lines of 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25 in the Tier 25 Realm. With the likelihood of Skills existing at different Tiers in the lower Realm, it stands to reason they would also be inherently different in terms of how they function. Ra'thala says that he can feel his constellations (i.e, his Skills) changing when he Ascends - I don't think this is purely an upgrade, I think the Ascension adjusted his Skills to make them consistent with the scaling and standards of MAL's Realm.

Pyrefiend

Does cultivation follow the same rules in every realm? It would be interesting if some of the quirks were not less understanding but actually different.

Apep

It is fascinating that in this lower realm we a) have a tribal society and b) the cultivators are less informed about how things work. The way how you find your concept and intend are way less formalized.

David

Matt was described as a spring bubbling up water which is an awesome call-back to his original idea of a concept.

Trevor Mergen

Well that was awesome. Thanks!

Null_is_Void

So cool!

Jacob

I thought the same thing. It shows alot about a powerful character if he looks back to where he came from.

T

He got his talents upgraded by his ascension shloud be quite strong so in case he’s a doush send someone in the same tier but able to box him is advised

Sangui

Shadow is the person with constellations on their skin.

Jack Dawson

Pretty sure that's Allie

TwoMoreYears

Very cool beginning to the book. It says something positive to this style allowing a greater look at the realm that my one complaint is that I would have liked to know more about the character. Specifically if he saw his brother/mother again. It’s a small thing and I only bring it up to say that it’s a great sign of how the story is going that I care about something so relatively minor for a character I’ve never met before this.

Tommy

Hmmm, bit disappointed there was no mention of what happened to the warlord. Interesting POV. Excited to see how he interacts with Matt and the team. Who is the person with constellations on their skin? TFTC. Enjoy the break

Tetrasimplex

I think because it is a less powerful realm overall, the chaos outside of worlds is also less powerful, which leads to the sky bridge type pathways Also i think that in the normal t50 realm, killing people gives similarly dense essence to killing monsters, so it could be they consider that tainted too.

Anime Problem

He'd have to be either 25 or somewhere similar

Cindri

He just travelled to different planets using the natural tethers"sky bridge" and like all planets they have different tiers

Mike G.

Interesting new POV, thanks! "the caption" -> "the captain"

Aaron Hardin

There is precedent of reaching T51 from T1 purely through inspirations, who knows, that could have been the last time an individual ascended to The current realm

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis Thanks Dae I did not expect this sort of PoV. Not yet invested but the story is still young. Wait... if I stop being dense this is likely the Ascender... I am admittedly more invested. I admit that a less modern PoA idea is interesting. A more medieval Pather war. I do hope this Warlord is merely T5. Partially as a showing of how people without would view a Concept and partially as if this is still a T25 Realm, that the guy didn't Ascend twice, than the Warlord may end up getting clobbered out of hand by someone above T5. -Though it would be fun to have Mantis allow the idea of a realm below T25. Oh, Celestials aren't even T5s but merely T1s. Is this a new world or a new rift world? The Celestials perhaps related to the people who chose to move to a rift world. It would certainly fit that they call themselves celestials... coming from the stars and wanting to feel above mortals. -okay, they have a better reason for being called Celestials. And it is a fun style of cultivation to boot. So all celestials, theoretically, awaken by inspiration. Impressive if apparently easy enough to fake. Though a person able to wound a Celestial as a mortal certainly would be believable for someone that had an inspiration. I wonder if some Celestials have an heir kill them, when they are close to death. A means of passing on their power to the next generation. Or maybe some other culture would, I sorta like the idea for some excuse for nobility always having people awaken when bloodlines may not be a thing here. A blank sky is a cool description of needing a Concept. I wonder if the star map the guy was given was one of many cultivation methods. I always wanted cultivation to feel less uniform that simply compressing essence. The Empire simply standardized it. Maybe in the best way maybe not. There could be such fun ways of cultivating with different benefits. Sure maybe it's just others call it fancy when it's diverting essence to different attributes, but I like it. Are the passages between worlds natural? A benefit of a lower tiered realm. -I wonder if the veil could've been inspired by a lower tier realm's passages. -Or perhaps the anchors and paths between planets are the imitation. And we also get some hints about how people in low tier Realms get to have Skills. Just noticing that Mantis did end up getting into religion. Though kept as more pagan with divinity being something you can earn instead of purely something you worship. I do like it when both parties in a relationship are shown to care. Striving for themself and for their love. Healthy relationships are good to show in media. -I hope the Ascension has both of them arriving together. -oof So a constellation is a Skill? I do like the showing of grasping an imperfect Concept. There is a path beyond a perfect Concept or a bottled concept. -I wonder how easy it is to use an aura to advance. Would a clan with an aura rift be unchallenged in their numbers. A bit interesting that the paths between planets is described in the same manner as the path to the next realm. -never mind, that was just the comparison he could make. Interesting how he can see so much. So a Sky Sword is a weapon made of Concept. He seems to expect all Concepts to be weapons, and those weapons that aren't made of Concepts are weaker. Not sure if Growth items are accepted alternatives. Still, it is interesting that he doesn't seem to expect non-weapon Concepts. I do like the idea that the guy thinks Allie is giving her skills away. -I also sorta like the idea of him and Allie, basic thought but it's fun. In conclusion, that was fun and I am now interested and at least minority invested. Now for the long break. Have fun Mantis!

triscuit73

Also the matriarch of the family he lived with died defending from a monster den outbreak. I assumed that was their version of a rift break.

James Faulkner

Same!

Bob Bryan

Good luck stalking a teleporter.

Alex

I think his Talent is to form earth into pieces of equipment, like clothing and weapons.

hachetnif

He said that there were his equals in Realm, he just thought that they were really powerful

Alex

@MikeL wellspring here refers to how Ra'thala perceives Matt - he's probably feeling his Concept in action. Matt is the raging star pouring out star power (i.e mana). Susanne is sky sword ('sky' seems to be the nomenclature that people from Ra'thala's Realm use to describe Domain stuff, so the 'sky' here probably refers to the fact that Susanne's sword is a willpower construct). Liz is the woman with the flaming bird. Aster is the woman with fox features. Zack is the man with constellations rippling around him (i.e formations). Allie is the woman covered in constellations. Manny really rolled out the red carpet for the guy, greeting him with every Ascender, and near Ascender at his Tier.

wanderer117

The rules of the lower realm sound different in general. Beast core taint and unlimited ambient essence.

Flopmind

Yay! I wonder what his talent is. I'm guessing it's something that relates to skills given how it wasn't remarked upon early on in his cultivation.

Robbie

So would he be considered in a league like ascenders? Or did Manny just send the ascenders cause they were easy to use in case he was an ascender level combatant from the lower realm?

austin kutz

The 9 skies map implies that. Maybe my inference is wrong, but I doubt it

Christopher Roberts

Where was the mention of 9 Middle worlds?

Xarow

So this guy, maybe even better at making skills than the sects? Sounds like he was making them completely from scratch without gaining them from shards. Unless he was only ever using his talents…

WierdWebLurker

Given that he was told to claim his awakening happened as he "reminisced on the battle", I'm guessing that it's meant to happen through Inspiration.

Xarow

Perhaps a little like Manny’s talent looking into his history.

Xarow

Does having an inspiration fix previous bad cultivation? Sounded like they use ambient essence and inspirations, rather than rifts.

MikeL

Or very old teleportation network that the current generation doesn’t understand.

MikeL

Matt is Titan, Melinda is Wellspring

WindGunner

No he did ambient essence cultivation, they think rift essence is bad, he had an inspiration 25->26

Sean C Jackson

Well he sensed that his Tier was the same as the Mat and the other's so he is tier 26 and just left a tier 25 realm.

Lidja

Six people in welcoming committee, so that’s Matt (wellspring), Liz (spear-woman), Aster (foxy features), Suzanne (Sky sword), Allie (Constellation lady) which leaves the 6th to be Zack.

Sean C Jackson

Well it seems celestial is tier 1-4 with tier 4 being a True Great Celestial, tier 5-9 is Divine, tier 10-14 is God, tier 15-? Is Almighty, and tier ?-25 is Origin. That's my bosses guess from a single read of the chapter and various context clues.

Blake N.

I think it was a tier 25 realm. From what I picked up, divine is after tier 5, needing a concept to get to. Then almighty was tier 15 with true origin being tier 25

Tsorov

I agree with the second part, but I think constellation imbuer means enchanter. Would also make more sense, since he taught it to himself in a few years

Sean C Jackson

No, he had one inspiration that pushed him passed the threshold if his realm to tier 26. He cultivated entirely the ancient way with ambient qi/essence. Though it seems in his realm the only legal way to Awaken is with an inspiration or enlightenment.

mrthorwahl

Wonderful chapter!

RedLeaf

That was a great introduction to a lower realm. Will be interesting to see what Ra'thala will bring to the Empire.

Havokk

he had an inspiration to T26 as he felt like ice floating to the top. Just like T51's automatically ascend in the realm the story takes place in

alex bozdog

I think the limit for his realm was Tier 25 and when he pushed to 26 he was forcibly pulled forward. That would match why Matt, Lizz, Aster, Light and Shadow all matched his tier.

austin kutz

Either it's a situation like Minkala where people from a higher realm meddled to make them happen, or they're the manifestation of natural chaos connections in lower realms.

austin kutz

I'm pretty sure he was tier 25 given that he lived for 900 years as a "constellation imbuer" (I assume this means he made bottled concepts, which is supposed to be super difficult for lower tiers, but maybe it's easier in a lower realm) which meant he was tier 14 at the time, at the very most since his concept was broken at the time and he couldn't reach the next rank. Then, he fixed it when he stood up to the rapist guy. I don't know how he reached tier 24 from tier 15 since that's supposed to take a really long time with ambient essence, but it seems that he did. Then, he had an inspiration to go from 24 to 25 and got kicked out of the lower realm. He only perceives the ascenders as much stronger than him because they really are crazy strong and they're also a few tiers higher than him

Sacchito22

Ra'thala became a "celestial" in a forest within a forest. The wolf he killed was a rift beast and the essence was felt as corruption. Rifts existed, but delving them didn't seem to be the path to grow.

austin kutz

It seemed as if there were no rifts to me.

Alex Perez

this is peak

William Johnson

We also know that ascending from the realm perfects one's foundation and empowers concepts and I believe talents. Assuming ascending to the realm works the same way if he wasn't a peak elite before he certainly is now!

Accio123

This is the lifestory of the ascender from a lower realm that was noticed by Manny's team last chapter.

John

Wonder what tier he is

Domy

The only other way is natural tiering but from the looks of it the realm he came from was to low a tier to allow for this. So a new monster is born. Or has ascended.

Havokk

Sweet sounds like Allie's may have gotten a stalker.... Loved the POV though, to see how other realms view cultivation is always interesting

Sacchito22

This brings up a fascinating idea I hadn't considered yet. Characters from our story might be capable of Ascension, but that doesn't mean they are the bottom of the metaphorical stack. People can ascend into their realm just as well as they can leave it. It seems the previous realm had a significantly harder time sustaining awakened and I'm noticing a lack of skill shards, just pure mana manipulation and talents. Was rift essence corrupting in that realm? What teir is he entering in with? At least 20+ range for sure. SO MANY QUESTIONS!

Adurna

That is such a great dropping point for your break. Very hype from this PoV!

Nathaniel Ownbey

I figured it would be something like this. It will be interesting to see what happens

Jsar

He's from a lower realm. I presume the rules of his realm are slightly different

austin kutz

HAH! So the lower worlds do have 9 middle worlds to ascend to, like I thought. This should also mean that the three higher worlds still have a singular world to ascend to

Brisingaer

This is fascinating. I'm going to make an assumption. Someone able to Ascend to a higher realm at all. Probably a peak elite at least in terms of ability. Add on what is likely an entirely unique to the main realm set of perspectives,skills,techniques, etc. AND he's fundamentally decent but loves to fight and progress. Seems like a high value pick up for the Empire in the lead up to True War

Alex

What are these sky bridges? I'm assuming they're a naturally occurring way to traverse the worlds. That's so interesting! Why aren't there any in the Empire? Do people not use them because the inter-planetary teleporters exist? Do the inter-planetary teleporters stop sky bridges from forming?

Chioke Nelson

The fact that I came into this chapter KNOWING it was the last before a break only made it all the more bittersweet.

Matt H

I think this is the most excited I've been after reading an alt-POV at the beginning of a book!

ElJako98

Every time you have one of these chapters, I'm not into at the start and by the end you get me as excited for a new character as one of the main characters. I'm really hoping we see more of him

Ryan

I loved the look into other realms and the Ascension process! Great chapter!

James Faulkner

So fucking cool!! And typical Allie behavior 😂

Thomas Brusilovsky

Are you telling me this dude’s had 24 freaking inspirations!?

Bob Bryan

No it's a lower realm that stops at possibly 15, maybe 25, ascending to the realm that we know. Was mentioned in the Manny chapter that their was going to be an ascension from a lower realm there between that day and 100 years

MinE

I wonder what tiers correspond to each cultivation stage he referred to? Besides the obvious tier 5.

MinE

Ascension from a power realm.

Bob Bryan

True. Federation would have been a nightmare though.

MinE

Sects would be second, I the similarities to his original world might make him dissapointed and depressed.

Dan

Let’s go, I’m so hyped

Bob Bryan

Honestly, probably the best place for him to end up so he turns out fully alright. Empire has laws specifically for stopping that. Federation would have been an absolute nightmare.

Luciaron

Very interesting, I wonder how this will tie into the next arc. Have a wonderful break.

Dominic French

Is this like two universes colliding or something ?

noah radencic

Yaya


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