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Chapter 433

🕑 Added 2025-06-23 18:59:03 +0000 UTC

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E H B

So quick question can the same anchor be use in both the intent and aspect like can liz use her blood twice or dise it have to be new every time I know some overlap in a domain is expected but can someone use the same phase overtime or is it so specific to an individual that as long as it work it works

Chimera80

278, though you may find it easier to read a significant number of the back-chapters on Royal Road (Patreon is really no the best-described interface for reading a lot of chapters in a row)

Julian

Hey sorry i don't know where to ask. I just finished Book 9 and swapped now to patreon. Where do i have to start

Chimera80

Matt looked agape, wanting to go back inside. => “looked up, agape,” or “looked on, agape,”. As written, it means “he appeared to be agape” but it was incredibly embarrassing to have such a ship => “would be incredibly embarrassing” (hypothetical) or “was incredibly cringeworthy” (reaction of outside onlooker). For it to actually *be* embarrassing, Matt would need to be the one owning the ship. Or at least not the second stage, which is what you really meant. Most of us have at least that much. => clarify that “that much” refers to what Matt has. Otherwise it reads as if “most of us have the second stage”, which directly contradicts her previous statement and the subsequent paragraph. She seemed intent to hone her skills from the bottom up => intent on honing making up for their fewer numbers. => lesser. (Fewer soldiers, but the *number* is lesser) Matt inextricably felt slightly better at hearing that, => inexplicably When he cast a spell, he was able to create copies of the cast up to half his Tier, => possibly clarify that the *number* of copies is what goes up to half his Tier? On first reading, I understood that as “the power of the copies was at half his Tier” (it’s very common for “copy”’powers to make the copies weaker)

Chimera80

“A small stutter passed through their connection, and a new chat log regarding some details about Matt’s [AI] integration backfilled in his messages, complete with accurate responses from him as part of his side of the conversation.” That’s fecking terrifying. How can AI logs be trusted if they can be so easily hacked!? *** “When he cast a spell, he was able to create copies of the cast up to half his Tier, making every one of his skills incredibly strong.” Ok, that’s is one *bullshit* Talent! 🤣 Truly worthy of an Ascender. Bet you he specialises in duplication skills (like [Barrage], which he does use). *** “Secrecy beyond the norm for your Talent might be understandable, but we know what it is well enough that it shouldn’t be a sore spot, yet it is.” If they “know what it is well enough” then *there shouldn’t be a fecking problem*, because they know that it isn’t anything like Charl’s. This undermines Eclavorn’s entire position *** “You hit me with a fear spell?” Matt should be getting these. Seems exceedingly useful, especially if he can overcharge them. Of course, Eclavorn would just consider that more evidence Matt is exactly like Charl.

Chimera80

Yeah, Gideon is planting *deep* seeds of resentment by treating Matt as if this was a mutual antagonism, as opposed to a one-sided attack. He should be directing his comments about this solely to Eclavorn.

Chimera80

I think it’s more that the cost is determined by the size of the portal and Tier of the people/items being transported. The specific flag here is that he transported Aiden and Lila (where it’s specifically noted that Allie could not)

Chimera80

“You demand mortals respect you, which is exactly like him, always requiring obeisance and taking it as a personal slight when he didn’t get it.” Oh, F__K OFF with this bullshit! Time after time after time. I honestly think at this point Matt would be better off just leaving the whole group, if they endlessly keep demanding he prove himself innocent of their accusations he has done nothing to earn. “Secrecy of his own Talent”? - like Eclavorn is personally *entitled* to know! Matt’s Talent is an *Imperial* secret, which is made clear by the *Emperor himself* bribing Max to not reveal it. Also kind of frustrating to see Matt being made the butt multiple times without him getting his own back - THREE times this chapter: - the prank from Aster, who used his true-felt concern as bait - whatever’s going on with making him Portal Lila and Aiden - and now this, where Gideon “makes peace” by blaming BOTH parties for the unilateral attack.

Julie Smith

Correct usage of the term!

Julie Smith

I like it from a POV aspect, learning about other societies, but from a competitive aspect and a Realm pride aspect, I'm pretty skeptical it would be as smooth and easy as it is. It's like they're more attracted to fellow Ascenders than their own Realms. That's entirely possible in a fictional setting, but it just feels more natural to adhere more tightly to their realms.

Julie Smith

A battle between Matt and Ecklavorn was not expected, even if it was just a testing sparring match. I understand the concern about another Charl, but it's not my style, even if is consistent with Ascenders and the Monster Collective. That said, I wonder what Max's subroutines have figured out? If someone postulates Matt has unlimited mana, that matches all the evidence. The 'how' of the unlimited mana is what I doubt she's figured out. Doubling every level is not what most people would guess. I lost track of the wars. I knew about the Federation and Monster Collective, but I was surprised it finished as quickly as it did. I didn't know the Republic vs Clan war had even started, and now it's over. This callous disregard for human life appalls me and really strikes me as alien, to have play wars for political points and strategic diplomatic purposes.

R. Maxwell Steele

Sad that if they bail on this trip, it essentially means that the mortals in their school will be like 100 years old when they get back. So we will miss the best parts of Tim's advancements and likely just get a quick update.

Alex

Matt fighting is a bad idea. Isnt he supposed to keep full mana when around powerful people?

Booksaregood

Portal is probably one of the spells that has to be consistently fed mana, just like ai, and such and such

TimeDrawsNigh

Chapters are released at 3pm EST every Monday & Friday. So about 4 and a half hours until the next one.

TimeDrawsNigh

I thought Domain clones can only exist within a users domain range?

Brandon Cooley

No chapter today?

Drew Tunison

I just want to point out that eclavorn is also an ascender who is much farther along than matt and gang. Usually ascenders actually ascend and quickly by realm standards, so yeah he might have made a grudge but likely by the time matt catches up he will have ascended. An example of this is Lila as its been said that she would have already ascended if not for manny asking her to stay because of the upcoming true war because of matts talent.

Strato Junon

I don't really get your point here. He's the master of his own destiny. Doesn't mean he can't chose to accept a test/challenge? I don't see the contradiction myself

Maximilian

I have a question for you all, just to see if I'm the only one who feels this way. Matt's truth is ‘I am the Master of My Own Destiny’ and in my opinion it kind of conflicted with his actions. Am I the only one who felt weird that he reacted so calmly because attacking him and playing around with him is contrary to his truth? The rest of the chapter was otherwise awesome and I was glad to see the club back together. Especially Max. Keep up the good work!

Tyler Thompson

What a hypocrite

MinE

Well, you can still hate him he is annoying/biggest jerk in the series even when he isn't suspecting people of being the second coming of the Master of None.

Austin Gillespie

I feel like this is a good reminder that most Ascenders do what they want, when they want, and the crew from the Empire are pretty well behaved. It felt a little much at first, but when I thought about the standard dragon arrogance, the untouchability of Ascenders, and the true low risk to life of a move like this, it made sense. Also generally love the little Ascender club so far, it feels like such a better way to touch on their status than heavy handed work for the Empire or abusing their power in their political conflict. And it’s nice to have peers even at the top

Andrew K

The phrasing "actually use it in such a flaunting manner" came off as rather clunky to me, particularly considering "actually flaunt it in such a manner" as a potential alternative that's shorter / more direct.

Alex

You're touching on a big pet-peeve of mine: most writers have no fucking clue how to write immortal characters. Part of what I like so much about Mantis' work is that I feel he writes immortal characters and immortal society better than any other creator I've encountered. Immortals would be COMPLETELY different to mortals, even if they were identical in every way other than their inability to die from old age. For us mortals, time is the most valuable resource we have, because our time is finite and irreplaceable. For someone who doesn't age, $100 is more valuable than 100 years; that's an absolutely insane concept to us, but that's the reality of having an infinite amount of time to spend. An immortal's view of the world would be COMPLETELY different than a mortal's. We mortals know that if we kick a can far enough down the road, we can die before we have to deal with it; it's pretty common for people to create problems they know they won't live long enough to suffer the consequences of - just look at how our society treats climate change and the unsustainable harvesting of Earth's mineral resources. That isn't the case for an immortal - one day, an immortal WILL have to reap what they've sown; in the context of their INFINITE lifespan, it won't even be that long until they need to do it, so they'd be much more cautious about creating problems for themselves. Eclavorn's an asshole, but this issue of a potential Charl 2.0 clearly means a LOT to him for it to be worth pissing off a peer adversary that's going to be part of his life for a LONG time.

BigBuckler

Chapters like this make me wonder how grudges work when you're immortal. If I were Matt, I would wanna kick Eclavorn's ass, but that's simply not happening until he's within 3 tiers or so I'd guess. But getting there might take a bazillion years. Can you be a well adjusted person, and hold onto a grudge long enough to get revenge when you're strong enough? Not to say this is how Matt is behaving, but I'm curious what kind of lines need to be crossed to be worth eternal enmity.

Joakim Berube

Eclavorn keeps accusing Matt of being too similar to Charl yet he is the one acting like a little bitch who ruins the fun for everyone else

Alex

I think it's Olivier, not Oliver.

Christopher

It’s annoying that Eclavorn is so dumb; the truth is clearly different. It doesn’t come off as him being worried or concerned, just as somehow not being intelligent enough to comprehend the difference, and that he has chosen to interpret Matts actions with respect to mortals in a way that is convenient for his misunderstanding. It doesn’t feel like a natural way to create tension, it feels forced.

Etoyrt

Eclavorn's behavior is just so wildly inappropriate. There is nothing wrong with him wanting to take extreme measures to ensure that a destruction of trust in a peer group he cares deeply about does not occur again. Fighting Matt, secretly putting Matt under countless fear spells to get a better understanding of what his Truth is like, being annoying and untrusting. All of these things can be fine. What isn't fine is suddenly jumping Matt. What isn't fine is his degree of boundary pushing and emotional dedication that leads me to think that if he was too concerned he would go straight for the kill damn the consequences. What I find especially sad is that everyone else (besides the empire ascenders who know Matt and his circumstances better and maybe a couple others though I cannot be sure) have similar concerns they are not as willing to push boundaries for and thus even if they do not push them themselves they do not consider the boundary pushing to be as bad as they might otherwise. They would rather be peacemakers preventing worse conflict from Eclavorn's actions than actually push back. They clearly cannot stop Eclavorn from doing this type of thing without extreme escalation, and surely some are somewhat willing to see it happen, but they could punish it when it happens. Eclavorn can keep doing his nonsense and doesn't have to trust Matt, but pushing boundaries in this sort of way should cost more. One of Eclavorn's big complaints about Charl is that he subtly ruined the vibe. Eclavorn is really hurting the vibe. Eclavorn is far more sympathetic than Charl and not nearly as selfish and uncaring about treating others appropriately, but I could compare their effects and actions in some small ways. If the goal is to really prevent this sort of thing there should be careful and consistent pushback. The ascender community will always have some difficulties. They are excentric and driven people but also ones that come from different cultures with cultivated differences. There is always going to be push and pull. Boundaries will be negotiated because they cannot depend on their cultures' norms or how they learned to deal with non-ascenders. Yet, there is clearly far more allowance for Eclavorn here than that would allow. That is because it is personal for the others as well, but I think that in any group that is a trap. That is how you let the real problems slip by. Managing this sort of relationship is an effort.

JoshCalmick

What a cliffhanger. Thanks Mantis!

Kain

Gonna throw a wild bet, some way to second dip into Minkalla, maybe just for a single floor. Literally just because they are there.

HN

TFTC! Edit suggestion: the dragon seemed unphased by Matt’s explanation -> unfazed

Ali Sha

Gah the cliffy! Has to be something delving or fighting related right? Why else bring all their delving capable friends? Just how it would work when they are all radically different tiers though?

SunStar

My guess is he stands with the people going for the kill rather than risk Matt empowering anyone over his people.

Jason Hatter

Manny was there. Clone, but there. Given his abilities, I'm sure he was aware this was going to happen

MinE

No, Eclavorn has been consistently annoying, especially to Matt. He is the guy who found issues with Matt being mad his friend died.

Mick Gormley

Anyone else thinking Matt and Eclavorn r gunna become good friends. This meeting seems like a great opportunity for the start of a rivals to friends arc. They only don’t like each other because E doesn’t think Matt is being truthful with his intentions. Once the dragon realizes that Matt wants to punch the Feddys as much as he does, they’ll get along just fine

C_Mantis

Anything about it in particular? One person said it had too much exposition but that's really the only negative feedback I've gotten. If I need to do edits I will but I need to know what is wrong.

RedLeaf

Thanks for the chapter; and the quick fight? spar? warm-up?

nolan saylor

Thanks Mantis! Thanks Dae! I wonder who came out ahead in this war? I would prefer the Feds lose. I am just not sure if the Feds are being set up as a big boss to be defeated or a dying GP that will be torn apart. Not sure where it is headed narratively. In realm I'm not sure if their runes have given enough of a boost to win against the fresh Monster collective. -and answered A cool ship. A bit vain, but she is a dragon ascender. When resources aren't limited, extravagance is less wasteful. I wonder if everyone knows Eclavorn got to the 3rd stage, or if Lila knows because Eclavorn has a crush on her and so bragged about it. I do enjoy the method of Turstaal's arrival. I wonder if it was purely an artistic choice. Maybe just cheaper for her to move via plants. We were previously told that high tiers use up lots of mana and take lots of time to recharge, and Royals more often donate their mana/ use it in governance. Lol, I do enjoy Max. Her allegiance makes this all the more exciting. By how much the minds are wanting to stay with Max I'd believe that she has a good chance of knowing his Talent. The minds thinking the knowledge important and impactful enough that she'd want to know. This a person who laughs about people hiding super rare growth items and Talents and such as commonplace. She could also be exaggerating the numbers, just saying it for a joke -Though how she is not willing to delete the minds seems to mean that they are not easy/quick to remake. Or that they are more individual, their minds are more unique. Which would take time to happen, and also their uniqueness for trains of thought. Huh, we learn the dragon R3, Dragon Fear! And some fun background info on Eclavorn, a non-typical dragon Talent... and stronger than the Dragon Talent which is probably in the top 10% of Talents. Probably higher. I do love when karma comes for the douchebags. Fun that Matt gets to face the quantity instead of quality for once. I hadn't thought about how his secrecy about his Talent would appear. It is a reasonable worry on Eclavorn's part. Now knowing Charl I understand a bit of Eclavorn's actions. It is annoying when you can't even hate a guy. People on opposite sides aren't always enemies. I do love when both sides are real. Nazis are such unpleasant antagonists. At least have good motivations! Rah and Susanne were invited?! Eclavorn vs Matt reminds me a bit of the Talous fight. -Still another PoV that would be fun. Or seeing how Matt would react now, if he can overcome past resentment. A cruel cliffhanger. The way the chapter ended doesn't seem like they made progress in their Domains. It sounded more like they found some location that has potential to be fun. Some new planet drifting in with weirdness. Not sure how it would benefit the range of tiers though. At first I thought they would be ascending, but that doesn't seem right. A funny surprise would be if Lila and Eclavorn were getting together, Lila just hiding it for some funny reveal. I doubt it, but I would believe that they would Ascend together, being willing to give it a shot when what GP you are from matters less.

Derze

We got baited. Yikes. I want to know the scoop

Zack

That is such a big cliff to not hear what G&E have to say

A Flashy BR

Tyftc!! That was intense! I want more haha

Matt H

Max's actions this chapter give me slight hope when the true war eventually comes that some of the Ascenders from the other Great Powers might be willing to switch sides or, at least, stay out of the fight against Matt specifically.

Havokk

iirc that was established in one of the early books that there were two types of bonds. one from egg drops the other a willing bond made

Jana

I do understand that Eclavorn who most likely grew up in a society that saw his kind as more of a property (and that’s in good cases) would hate anyone seeking to control him or people on his power level. Pretty sure he has more in common with Matt than both would like to admit. I wonder however- where will he stand if people would come and try to lock up Matt for his Talent?

Benjamin Warlick

Since when can non egg bloodlines form bonds? If that’s a thing why wouldn’t Liz bond with Matt or Waters with his wife. Even if you can only have one, you’d think it would have come up as a discussion between MLA when the two got married.

Matt H

My initial guess was getting humans a bloodline albeit maybe at only a fraction of the power of a "true" bloodline. However, that wouldn't wouldn't benefit all the Ascenders, just most of them.

Bernardo Santos

Ok the build up to the true war is really starting to be interesting

Alex

Going all out when Virgil's around to get a good look at your abilities and Manny isn't there to shield you from her spiritual perception seems like a pretty stupid thing to do, Matt.

Alex

Max is anything but stupid - as soon as she pieces together what Matt's Talents are her next realization will be the kind of shitstorm they're going to create. Maybe she just doesn't want to know the secret that's going to restart The Shattering.

Tom C

Liz shook her hand, and a small bottle of intangibility aura appeared. “Got 'em. Sien and Maya are going to pay out the nose for this.” -> I think the expression is “pay through the nose” no? TFTC!

Havokk

lol Max having minds shut down rather than risk Matts secret, just what did the Emperor bribe her with ??? and C.Mantis....... hanging us out on this cliff till firday ??? thats cold man

DaWykitat

This is the first chapter I didn't like in years

Alex

It definitely isn't. That Rift was found on a border world shared between the Empire and the Republic. If the Republic found out where the Dragon Rift came from it would definitely start a war - maybe even a rule breaking war - because the Empire basically stole the most valuable resource (that isn't a Talent) that's been found in the past million+ years right out from under their noses. EDIT: Ironically the ACTUAL most valuable resource that's been found in the last million+ years is Matthew himself.

MinE

If the fact Matt discovered the dragon rift is public; he should throw shade on Eclavorn for using his resources.

MO

Is that a double space __ in the 3rd paragraph, the last line, between the words "Ascenders" and "just"

jacob butler

I can't thank you for a chapter with such a crazy cliff hanger lol

fruit dragon

Putting in my bet hidden realm

Alex

Maybe Gideon and/or Eclavorn has figured out part of their Authority?

Captain the Red Beard

Tyftc.

Kasamuri

Thanks for the chapter


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