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How the Insurrectionist Might Use the Insurrection Act to Go After Non-insurrectionists

🕑 Added 2025-02-10 06:33:30 +0000 UTC
How the Insurrectionist Might Use the Insurrection Act to Go After Non-insurrectionists
How the Insurrectionist Might Use the Insurrection Act to Go After Non-insurrectionists

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John Tanzer

The Philadelphia police bombed MOVE in 1985. Not the feds and from a helicopter not a bomber, but like Tulsa an important thing to note

Just a Little Guy

There are published cases on the Third Amendment (albeit not many), just no Supreme Court case. Off the top of my head, there’s a Second Circuit case regarding housing corrections officers in private homes.

David in Brooklyn

One significant point about the Constitution's grant of "Commander in Chief" status to the President is that it refers to the Army and Navy, and to (in effect) the National Guard in case of actual conflict, but the President is never "Commander-in-Chief" of the whole country as many on the Right would have it.

Kristen Leist

I concur with Gmork. I listen to and read the daily newsletter of professor of American history Heather Cox Richardson. From her I learned that during the Tulsa race massacre, in which the businesses and generational wealth of local Black Americans was destroyed, white people who owned airplanes used those planes to drop fire bombs, completing the destruction of homes and “Black Wall Street.” So not military aircraft, but the Tulsa massacre was the first incident of bombs dropped on an American city. If any part of this is wrong, it’s due to my recollection, not Prof Richardson’s knowledge of history.

Matt Cameron

Oh wow, i need to look that up. My authority on this was a book i read years back on the history of bill of rights litigation in which the 3rd amendment was simply noted to have had no published cases. I'm sure that book was published well after the 80s so they must have missed it too!

Charley Kelly, Bird Law Specialist

Hate to correct Matt on such a small point but there was at least one case, Engblom v. Carey, 677 F.2d 957 (2d Cir. 1982), interpreted the 3rd Amendment and found that it prohibited housing the national guard in workers’ dorms during peacetime. Totally reasonable to overlook it though since it’s basically the only time this has ever been raised. Some plaintiffs tried to raise it in a 2015 case, Mitchell v. City of Henderson, 13-CV-1154, but the district court dismissed that portion of their complaint because it dealt with police officers rather than soldiers.

Matt Cameron

Mine too, i havent had time to look it up but my understanding was that blair mountain was the only time that us military aircraft were deployed to bomb us soil. (see also (with apologies for my inability to capitalize anything here) the philadelpha police firebombing move activists from a helicopter.)

Matt Cameron

Good catch--dyscalculia strikes again!

Gmork

Re Tulsa, my understanding is that there was no officially authorized use of planes by military, but that basically crop dusters or other private planes were illegally used to drop bombs.

Viola DeGamba

“capital R republican”; don’t you mean “small r republican”. I’ve always thought small d and small r are used to distinguish forms of government from party names.

Viola DeGamba

Misspoke: Shay’s Rebellion was 1786 not 1768.


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