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Divergent Sims
🕑 Added 2023-05-12 16:38:40 +0000 UTC
Based on the overwhelming votes in my Patron poll, I have created something that's both an amalgamation of specific features from some of my other mods and new, unique features and enhancements. This is, by far, my most detailed mod to date and second largest and that's really saying something! This was a hard mod for me to make as it turned out to be a bit triggering but I'm really very pleased with how it turned out and so much effort, research, and work went into so I hope you enjoy!
This is a brand new, cohesive, comprehensive, modular mod that focuses on neurodiversity, self-esteem, mental health, evaluation, and treatments. This includes a detailed variety of 22 developmental, learning, mood, neurological, personality, body, and eating disorders affecting infants to elders.
While there are many traits and smaller mods which cover various individual aspects of this mod, I wanted to be intentional in making something that was in-depth, inclusive, and comprehensive while also being configurable for different players and their play styles.
Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a 100% accurate representation of these disorders, evaluations, diagnosis, therapies, etc. but a more generalized, Sim-style version. In real life, everyone's experience looks different and so can't be perfectly translated into a mod and there are lengthy, complicated steps to diagnosis and limitations to translating all of this to the Sims 4. That said, the mod is very much informed on a realistic approach as all of my mods are.
How it Works
Triggering the Mod
Note that nothing automatically happens with this mod unless one of five things:
- You install Disorder Auto Assignments to give all sims in your current household, Infant and older, a chance for aspects of installed modules automatically assigned to them OR
- You use the "Randomly Assign Any Disorder" or "Randomly Assign X Disorders" options in the Divergent Sims menu under Actions to randomly assign an individual sim, Infant and older, aspects of installed modules OR
- Your sim ages up in game and the aged up sim in the active household, Infant through Young Adult, has a chance to be randomly assigned aspects of installed modules OR
- You manually assign specific disorders to individual sims from installed modules via the Divergent Sims menu under Actions
- You send your sim to the Psychiatrist where there's a very small chance your sim will be randomly assigned aspects of installed modules and diagnosed.
Neurodiversity and Self-Esteem
All sims randomly roll their self-esteem and neurodiversity- they are either neurotypical or neurodivergent upon aging up to infant and they either have Low, Neutral, or High Self-Esteem. If it's the first time the mod is run self-esteem and neurodiversity are randomly assigned at any age. This is done whether or not you have Disorder Auto Assignment or not and to all sims.
Auto Assignment of Disorders
If any of the below optional modules are installed, there's a small and random chance that, depending on self-esteem and neurodiversity, a sim (infant-young adult) can roll one of the disorders below, but it is random chance depending on factors such as personality traits, neurodivergence, and self-esteem. This is optional, however, and can be prevented by taking out the Disorder Auto Assignment package. This only pertains to the active household. This does not have any effect over assignment from the modules when aging up.
Aging Up Disorder Chance
Babies who age up to infants or infants who age up to toddlers and are neurodivergent can roll one of the developmental disorders below (if installed). As infants and toddlers they can have one of the delays which stays with them through those two ages. Even if they do not have delays, neurodivergent infant and toddlers can still struggle socially, emotionally, or behaviorally.
Those delays or struggles can translate into a learning or neurological disorder (if installed) as they age into a child otherwise when they age up the delay goes away but they remain neurodivergent and can still struggle. If a sim did not have a struggle or delay as an infant or toddler, they can still upon aging up to child or teen develop a neurological, learning, personality, or mood disorder later in life.
Just because a Sim is neurotypical does not mean they will be immune from body, eating, mood, or personality disorders in the future (if those modules are installed). Sims who have low self-esteem have a chance of rolling a Body or Eating disorders when they age up to teen (if installed). All Sims have a small chance to roll a Mood, Personality, or Neurological (Anxiety and OCD only) upon aging up to teen and then another, smaller chance again upon aging up to a young adult (if installed).
Multiple Disorders
Sims with certain disorders are more likely to develop others. Therefore, Child and Teen sims may, even when not aging up, trigger another disorder. This happens most with Sims who have body, personality, and neurological disorders as they tend to lead to additional diagnosis of other learning, neurological, or mood disorders.
Evaluation and Diagnosis
All options for the mod are available on the Sim. For Infants and Toddlers it is "Early Childhood Development", for Children and Teens it is labeled "Youth Development", and for Young Adults and up it is labeled "Mental Health Services."
Parents and Caregivers can have their infants, toddlers, children, and teens evaluated by a child psychiatrist to receive a definitive diagnosis and can then seek treatment options if they choose. Older sims can also avail themselves of psychiatric evaluation for diagnosis. The psychiatrist will evaluate the sim and then give a diagnosis. Along with the diagnosis will be a proposed treatment plan.
Initial consultations are most expensive but subsequent consultations will be significantly less expensive with pricing based on the age of the sim and if the specific treatment was recommended by the psychiatrist.
Treatments
Sims can seek a variety of treatment options if they chose to do so or if recommended by the psychiatrist at the time of evaluation. Depending on the disorder, treatments range from speech therapy, behavioral therapy, occupational/physical therapy, psychotherapy/ talk therapy, play therapy/floortime, personalized tutoring, and medication including antidepressants, antipsychotics, psychostimulants, anxiolytics, and mood stabilizers. All medications have the possibility of side effects. The most effective treatment plan will usually be a combination of therapies and medications.
Sims can also go to support groups, try self-help options, eat healthier, and exercise, meditate, or practice other wellness activities. Some therapies work better than others and medications can cause side effects. Sims who choose to can self-medicate with Basemental's mod as well and that will be recognized by this mod.
If Sims change their minds about medication, want to go off meds, or want to try an additional pharmaceutical treatment, they can book a follow up appointment with the psychiatrist to discuss those options.
They can also, even if not specifically recommended by the psychiatrist, sign up for specific interventions, however, they will cost more than those specifically recommended by the psychiatrist. They will only be able to sign up for interventions which are generally recommended for their disorder(s).
Disorders
Each disorder will affect that which is typical for those disorders. Every disorder has various buffs, short and long-term, that occur due to their disorder, as well as occasional shifts in mood or trouble concentration/completing interactions or repetitive interactions or stops, and effects on mood, motives and needs (energy, fun, social, etc), social interactions, gaining friendships and romantic relationships, daily activities, learning new skills and reaching milestones, etc. all specific to the condition of that disorder. The disorders themselves, their categories, and who is eligible for them are listed below.
*Note that currently you cannot have more than one undiagnosed disorder at a time.*
Required Core Modules
Main Mod (Required)
The main mod is required for all other modules to work. It is the building block of the other modules. It includes all forms of therapy, psychiatry, support groups and group sessions, evaluations, and medications.
Self-Esteem (Required)
Self-esteem inform how a sim sees themselves. This is much more subtle than before but this core module is critical to the Body and Eating Disorders, Mood Disorders, or Personality Disorders modules.
Neurodiversity (Required)
Sims are either neurotypical or neurodivergent. This informs how they develop skills and interact with other sims and the world. This core module is critical to the Developmental, Learning, or Neurological disorders.
Optional Modules
I'm not going to list every change, buff, ccassional events, or possibilities of each disorder below as a.)there's too much to list as I tried to be as detailed as the game would allow and b.)it's fun to find out in gameplay but here's an overview of the modules and the disorders.
Anxiety Disorders (Teen and Above)
Generalized Anxiety Disorder
Occasional unknown anxiety, occasional panic attacks, general worry about
everyday situations like finances, job security, health, etc. Stressed
buffs decay much slower. Anxiolytics can help as can therapy.
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Occasional unknown anxiety, a buff cycle that starts with an obsession, then
turns into anxiety over the obsession, finally a compulsion which triggers an
action about the obsession (could be a repetitive action), and finally
temporary relief over completing the compulsion. This is mostly related to
germs, dirty, etc. If a Sim is near a sick Sim, this will also trigger.
Uncomfortable and Stressed buffs decay much slower. Anxiolytics can help
as can therapy.
Body and Eating Disorders Module (Teen and Above)
Anorexia
Bulimia
Body Dysmorphia
This description will be a little different since this is an updated and remixed version from Sim Image. These disorder will affect their daily lives, their relationships with the mirror and food, and their self-esteem and in turn, sims with low self-esteem and self-image are more susceptible to developing these disorders. Sims can get help, but not all Sims with the disorders will think they have a problem. Other Sims can ask Sims to get help.
Sims who get treatment can after some time go into recovery. It is possible for Sims in recovery to relapse into their old habits. The guilt of both relapse and the shame of the disorder can negatively affect Sim's self-esteem. Sim's in recovery can have minor relapses but can quickly recover if they choose to do so. Sims with these disorders will have unique responses and perspectives to common activities such as working out, eating, and looking in the mirror.
Developmental Disorders Module (Infants and Toddlers)
Cognitive Delay
Sims with cognitive delays will reach Fine Motor and Social infant milestones
much slower, and learn the Toddler Thinking and Imagination skills slower.
Global Developmental Delay
Sims with global delays with reach all infant milestones slower and gain all
Toddler Skills slower than their peers.
Motor Delay
Sims with motor delays with reach fine and gross motor infant milestones
slower and gain the Toddler Movement and Potty Skills slower.
Social Emotional Delay
Sims with Social Emotional delays will reach certain interactive fine motor and
social infant milestones slower as well as learning Toddler Communication and
Imagination skills slower.
Speech and Language Delay
Sims with Speech delays will reach social infant milestones slower as well as
learning Toddler Communication skill slower.
General Struggles
Sims with general struggles with reach all infant milestones a little bit slower
and gain all Toddler Skills a little bit slower than their peers.
Learning Disorders Module (Child and Above)
Dysgraphia
Sims with Dysgraphia will struggle with the writing and child mental and
creativity skill, learn it slower than others, have less success when writing,
and will take longer to write and complete school and university
assignments.
Dyslexia
Sims with Dyslexia will struggle with reading, read slower than others, gain
the child mental skill slightly slower, and will take longer to read and complete
school and university assignments.
Dyspraxia
Sims with Dysgraphia will struggle with working out, playing, and other
physical activities, learn the fitness and child motor skill slower than others,
have more injuries when doing physical activities as they will have less
success, and will have bouts of clumsiness.
Neurological Disorders Module (Child/Teen and Above)
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (Child and above)
Sims with ADHD will struggle with paying attention, will get
easily distracted, will be impulsive, and get bored easily. They go through
periods of extreme boredom, hyperactivity, and hyperfocus. They can
struggle with schoolwork and mental skills somewhat as it's hard for them to
focus and they get easily frustrated and bored. They enjoy physical activities
and a bit of adventure.
Autism Spectrum Disorder (Child and above)(3 Levels)
Sims with ASD will either have Level 1, 2, or 3 in severity. This determines
how much their disorder affects their daily lives. Sims with all levels of ASD
will struggle with social skills, social interactions, making friends and
increasing personal relationships, and get anxious or nervous when meeting
new people or in crowds with people they don't know well and can be
sensitive to loud noises. They have periods of hyperfocus.
Mood Disorders Module (Teen and above)
Bipolar Disorder
Sims with Bipolar disorder experience periods of variable length of
depressive episodes, manic episodes, and no episodes where things are
more balanced. During depressive episodes sims experience a loss of
interest in things, their energy and fun decay faster, may lose their appetite,
and feel overwhelmingly sad. During manic episodes, Sims experience
heightened euphoric confidence, are excitable and creative, incredibly
impulsive, distractive, and sometimes self-destructive. They may quit their
jobs or break up with their significant others. They can experience an
outburst of anger or hyperfocus during this time. Depressive episodes
usually follow manic episodes. After depressive episodes is usually a time
without episodes before another manic episode sets in. How long these last
are variable with each cycle.
Clinical Depression"
Sims with Major Depressive Disorder or Clinical Depression experience
sadness much of the time and have periods of major depressive episodes
which are much stronger than their baseline. They will get occasional buffs
where they feel down, or ashamed, or misunderstood, but they will also
have occasional periods of happiness and energy.
Seasonal Affective Disorder
Sims with Seasonal Affective Disorder have periods of depression which are
cyclical based on the season. They generally have these depressive episodes
more often in fall and winter and less often in spring and summer.
Personality Disorders Module (Teen and above)
Borderline Personality
Borderline Personality Disorder will causes sims to have periods of
aggression, depression, intense mood swings, have huge shifts in their self-
esteem back and forth, and periodic loneliness and fears that their loved
ones and friends have abandoned them. Their likes and dislikes can change
suddenly. It has effects on a sim's energy levels and ability to concentrate,
they may start something and not finish it and move onto to something else
and their emotions are slow to change.
Histrionic Personality
These sims love to be the center of attention, have highly volatile mood
swings, are incredibly impulsive, and will do almost anything for social
clout and admiration. They take slights personally and their friendships are
shallow. They are extremely flirty, almost inappropriately so.
Paranoid Personality
These Sims have trust issues, gain friendships and romantic relationships
much slower than others, are suspicious when people talk about them,
prefer to be underground, and get occasional buffs related to their
reclusiveness.
Plans
I'd love to do an actual venue where sims can go and have their group sessions and therapy appointments. I also want to do a career. How interactive and what that looks like I haven't decided which direction I'm going to go but open to ideas!
Requirements
This mod is Base Game compatible.
Note: The medications in the mod uses an animation from Spooky Stuff, but it is not required. The animation will just be missing.
Compatibility
In original conception, this mod blocked Sims from receiving disorder traits from this mod if they had assigned personality traits of those same disorders from mods like Basemental or YourFalseHope's traits. However, since those are personality traits and this mod's traits are gameplay traits, I decided to not block your sim from getting the ones from this mod still. I may change this based on feedback, though.
Installation Instructions
1. Install mod HERE. Install the adeepindigo_gameplaymods_divergentsims_core package and script. It's the core required file for this mod.
2. If you want all features of the mod, install all modules. Otherwise, only install the modules for features which you want in your game.
3. Lumpinou's Mood Pack is required for the mod to work
4. Make sure you have the most recent version of the general pie menus
Credits: Thanks so much to DaleRune for the base for the Anorexic and Bulimia disorders.
Early Access: May 12th (Sapphire/Violet)
Early Access: May 19th (Midnight/Azure)
Public Release: June 2nd
Comments
Kuri
Hello! I've contacted you and opened a thread on your Discord server regarding a bug that I've encountered with this mod - a moodlet from depression that makes interactions disappear. I'll be patiently waiting for your response! Thank you! (:
Frezja1728
Could you add Stammering in the next update?
Josephin
Is there a German translation?
Sam D.
When I click on the cheats (thanks for all the cheats btw)I don't see one to add PTSD, which would be good to add for some of my sims whose previous life experiences would warrant it. Is it only added thru game play? I see in the description that PTSD is "Patreon version only" which I would think I have since I downloaded the mod here, and give a monthly donation? What am I missing? I have the most recent version.
adeepindigo
Being neurodivergent doesn't mean your sim has any of the conditions assigned to them. This is stated in the mod description. Please read the mod description in full before posting.
CY
I can't get how to get my toddler diagnosed and treated. The computer had a grayed out option but now its gone. The toddler doesn't have a phone so I can't go that route and when I click on the toddler as the mom there are no options there either.. How do I get her diagnosed? I got a notification that she is neuro divergent.
adeepindigo
It was updated since the original early access. Also make sure you have the requirements installed as well.
Hi! so I downloaded your mod when it first came out and I never don't think I tested it after I had put it in, so when I did go into my game I couldn't interact with sims or my own and none of the sim NPCs would move or do anything at all im not sure if you had updated it since then and I just had the old version in my game with out knowing or maybe something was done wrong on my part but I really want to put this mod back in my game since I myself relate to it so much and its the closest thing regarding mental health. I hope I explained everything correctly. Thanks!
adeepindigo
I don’t find it so and I make mods for myself. If you do, I completely understand that’s your truth and you definitely don’t have to use the mod.
adeepindigo
They are currently only part of the patron version.
the puzzle piece is offensive
yaboicolleen
Love this so far! How do you get the Schizophrenia and PTSD options?
Sam D.
I am not clear what, if anything, to do when sims are designated as neurodivergent. I have all modules installed except the auto assign conditions. Once designated as neurodivergent, are they meant to go to a psychiatrist for more specific diagnosis? If so, how do I find that option (it is not listed under the mental health menu on the sim),and I don't see it under actions or on the phone. The only option is to go to therapy and there is no diagnosis when they go (and I'm not sure if that's not part of the family therapy mod anyway).
Hi, I just Want to start by saying thank you - honestly I love all you mods they have really elevated my game so much - My only issue with this new mod is that some of the medications do not come up when i try to buy them - is there something I may have missed?
adeepindigo
It works fine for the infants. Just because they are neurodivergent doesn't mean they need services. They don't have any options on them because they don't require any. Should they develop a developmental delay, options would appear.
Hello! I just downloaded this mod today, and for some reason it doesn't work on my infants and toddlers (have not tried it on toddlers or teens yet). I get a notification that they are neurodivergent, and the option to click on services in the pie menu, but there are no options for services that I can give them.
adeepindigo
huh?
lysims
my online prescriptions isn't working
There should be a “mental health services” button when you click on your sim
hey i cannot figure out how to let my sims attend appointments... i've tried multiple times, all within the hours that the appointments are supposed to work. am i doing anything wrong here? i've triple-checked that i have the most recent pie menus
Aryal
Thank you so much for your mods. It really makes the game so much more realistic!
Cassiopeia Morningstar
Should I delete UnicornKitty's Neurodiverse Sims mod if I download this?
shyann
hello, i have loved the mod so much since it has been released! however, im having an issue. the sims "reset" and get stuck where they cannot interact with other members of the household. i have updated all the required mods ie: moodpack and the others. i have mad sure everything is up to date, and it still happens when only this mod is installed. it happens within 5-10 minutes of loading the game, at some point it glitches, and then none of the sims can interact with each other. Edit: Its happening with adhd, autism, and generalized anxiety. have not tested the others yet
adeepindigo
What disorder did your sim have? And do you have the mood pack installed (what versions)?
S R
+1 having the same issue. Currently only noticing it for my female sims where their action queue sidebar disappeared and you could no longer click on their portrait
Hi! I had this mod downloaded and everything was working great until last night. For one female sim the queue bar would disappear and I wasn't able to control her. I figure this is something to do with the UI (that's what google says anyway), so I figured I would let you know before public release. Keep up the good work!
Lisa Grigley
I had this downloaded and loved it but for some reason, it started messing up my game. I would switch between sims and the spot where you would have activities you make your sims do like sleep, eat, etc. would disappear. Also when I would switch from sims to sims it would not change so the queue would be the same for all my sims. I know for sure it was this mod because I went through each mod I have to find out. Idk if I am explaining myself very well but idk if this a problem anyone else is having.
adeepindigo
.... I am so confused.... if you don't want your sim (i.e. played sims) to get them don't install it. The whole point of the mod is the possibility of getting them so complaining that it's hard to imagine the mod doing the exact thing the mod was created to do is incredibly perplexing. Maybe this particular mod just doesn't fit your playstyle and that's okay; you don't have to install it if it does things you don't want in your game. I don't have a lot of popular mods because I hate moodlets that don't match the game's moodlets. FYI; almost all of my mods- and this one does- have cheats to remove things you don't want or to add things you do.
Jasmine Kettledon
The chances of disorders seem very high. I wish there was a way to control/remove certain traits that don't fit a storyline. It's hard to imagine previously created and played sims ending up with these random disorders.
i have downloaded the mod but seem to have trouble so i reread and said i need the Self-Esteem and Neurodiversity core mod to work are they included? if not where do i find them please
kanapuro
would be interesting to add NPD. it gets demonized all the time but its a personality disorder that affects people! also i cant think of an appropriate way to add disassociative disorders (DID and other types. you could definitely add a generalized disassociative disorder but i cant think of ways to represent the different complex types) but i was interested in them and researched them for a long time so if you need information i might be of help
adeepindigo
#4 of the download instructions. your issue is a telltale sign that you didn't follow that one :)
love this!! but I am having issues with the mod. None of my sims pie menu won't pop up when I click on them or other sims
I'm autistic with BPD (borderline personality disorder) and I'm so excited! Thank you so much for all your hard work!!
Nicolette Hogue
Thank you so much! Hopefully Schitzophrenia will be added. I made my family and my uncle has it.
feroshgirl
Oh gosh, you can delete my comment! I didn’t realize I needed to start playing and let the results generate before I could change them. I apologize! Sometimes I read directions a million times and I still misunderstand them!
