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N번방 텔레그램과 나 (실화)

🕑 Added 2020-03-24 11:27:18 +0000 UTC

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Sen Tenshi

How is the justice in Korea compared to other country ? Maybe some people know more than me, this sentence seems very light to me... https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/03/child-victims-as-young-as-9-years-old-reported-to-be-exploited-in-nth-telegram-room It's scary to think this guy might have been watching the same ASMR we love. 😱

Sen Tenshi

Yeah people always find a way to turn something amazing into something creepy. I work with deep learning almost on daily basis cuz of my job, well, before the corona situation that is... AI can assist me in my work, they can instantly spot flaws and calculation error if they are trained to. Deep Learning and AI are really a huge step toward the futur. The Faceswap plugin is made to work with Python or Miniconda, etc... using the AI (tensorflow mostly) to build a new rendering. All they need is to build an iteration file, with as many pictures of the person they want, with the most angles and points of view possible. Thousands of pictures will be needed but it can be done with videos, by extractring frame by frame. So in the case of an ASMRtist it's really easy to get those data, even more than most people because of the nature of their work, you can easily find close up plan of the mouth, teeth, tongue, because they work with it. Then they will have to find a model with similar head shape, like, the jaw, chin, forehead, haircut, so... the more common your face is, the easier it is to find somebody. And the opposite is true, if your headshape is not typical, it will be harder to work with. Anyway, once this is done, all it take is to let the AI do the same data on the real model, and let the AI proceed to the faceswap. It take a lot of hours to get a good result we call this "training" then encoding. But once a person is completely trained, it will be easier and quicker to apply the face on other clip. They don't need permission, people can do that on anybody at anytime. They won't do offer they are just doing it. What Eunzel can do to protect herself is to make her face harder to scan, like, having a bang that cover the eyebrows or eyes sometimes, using different make up style on different videos. But honestly i don't think anybody can be safe from this, not if you are famous and exposed. The law should do something about this, that's the only way. This deepfake things remind me the VR, i like new tech, when the VR were released i jumped on it. It was amazing. And i know Eunzel enjoyed VR aswell when she tried it lol. But actually, VR tech is used at 90% for porn aswell... it's just a waste and sad. That's how people are, turning the good stuff into crap. None the less, the deep learning tech is really something to look forward, a deepfake is just a small part of the potential. I always loved sci-fi and my thought and dreams are always pointed at the horizon, so maybe that's why i like this kind of thing. To me, it's just a step toward the futur hehe. But maybe people are not ready for it yet, not mature enough. I just wanted to clarify what is it and how it's done. To help people understand it's more than just what those retarded persons are doing with it.

The internet is such a strange place when it comes to technologies like this. Last year I stumbled upon a "deepfake" video on YouTube and I thought it was so weird and creepy. It just didn't sit right with me. You know, they made holograms for MJ and Whitney Houston for award shows and "concerts". They hired impersonators to capture their movements and then they digitally altered their faces afterwards. But the holograms end up looking nothing like the actual artists and they don't move exactly like them either. Which is hilarious but also sad at the same time. Of course, people can do some cool and awesome things with this "deepfake" technology but they use it mostly for sexual purposes. So you need to be extra careful when you encounter a person who wants to make you an offer online.

rambam

I've seen other creators talk about it, unfortunately it's something a lot of them go through and it's really weird. Really all you can do is try to stay aware if anything seems off about when someone contacts you. Stay safe Eunzel!

Sen Tenshi

I read about this scandal, didn't knew about the follow. But you never know who's watching your content, sometimes it can be celebrity too. I know a lot about deepfake tho, i made some cool stuff myself but not porn related lol. But i know most people are using it for this purpose, it's always like this... take any interesting tool like.. i don't know, a camera ? Some people are going to use it to do interesting things and others are just gonna do sexual related stuff with it. Same thing goes with some paper and a pen. I guess, that's just how people are... This tech is used for many things now, included app that "beautify" your face, Ulike, Snow, even Youcam, etc... it's also used to unlock your phone with face scan. But the face swap porn is a huge problem for every famous people, and i know sadly, many ASMRtist, even less popular than you have been targeted. It's just a matter of time until you will be so you better be prepared for this. People are trying to do some legal actions against it but it's very difficult. And once a video is made, it's almost impossible to take it down. It keep spreading. Depending on the skill level of the user, the amount of images used for the iteration file and the "training" done with the models. It will look more or less real, it can be almost flawless if everything is done right so... This tech was first used in movies, they managed to make a Fast & Furious movie with Paul Walker, who has passed away year before it. Or used to make younger version of actual living actors, like in the recent Star Wars movies. It's a really amazing tech, it's just sad that people want to use it for this. I made myself and some friends appear in some Avenger fight scene hahaha. That's way cooler ! Believe me i look good in Captain America's suit ! 😝 Anyway, yes, i think sadly, you must prepare yourself for this. Sooner or later someone will target you. Because of the nature of your ASMR they have all the data needed to do so. The more popular you get, the more exposure to this kind of stuff you get aswell.

Ronny [Rendition]

I don't know the details of this case, but I've heard and read about deepfakes before. Replacing a face in a photo or video by another face is one VERY scary aspect of artificial intelligence. Photoshopping another face into a photo has been done for many years, but it took a lot of experience to create believable results. Everybody being able to do it with a simple mouse click and even manipulating videos in the same way is a scary thought. So far all the tech demos I've seen were quite easy to recognize as fakes whenever the person turned their head, but sooner or later all photo or video evidence will have to be considered as void. "Seeing is believing" will no longer work once these fakes get more advanced. All things considered, the internet is a very scary place. But if you use logic thinking and standard precautions, you can be reasonably safe. Always be careful who you share information with, which info you share and take extreme caution when a meeting in real life is proposed. If there's really a plausible reason to meet, better don't go alone.

일때문에 바빠서 하나도 모르다가 n번방 n번방 하길래 뭔가 하고봤다가 경악..26만은 사실 너무 말이안되는수치라서 수백명쯤 되지않을까 했다가 뉴스보니 6만명이라는 소리에 너무 놀랍더군요.. 요근래 몇년은 정말 다사다난한거같습니다.

star2f

지금이라도 잡혀서 정말 다행이네요. 저도 이번 보도가 있기 전까진 존재 자체도 몰랐었는데 참 무서운 사람들이 많은 거 같습니다.

1999년에 비해 21세기에는 밝고 희망적으로 느껴졌었는데 전염병, 마약, 장기매매 등등 더 어둡고 우울한 시기인것 같네요. 차라리 세기말 운석 충돌이 나을 지경.

마지막줄이 너무 공감되네요ㅠㅠ남녀갈등이 더 심해지지않았으면합니다


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