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AI: the eminent danger today.

🕑 Added 2024-02-29 22:50:19 +0000 UTC
AI: the eminent danger today.
AI: the eminent danger today.
AI: the eminent danger today.

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MH

Welcome to the dark side Chipp, sad to have you finally on board. When you try to explain that Ai will be a net bad thing for society and not in a terminator robots killing everyone type way people relegate you to the tin hat brigade or call you a luddite. But that was always based on an underestimation of the technology and the speed it will develop. Ive been using duckduckgo for a while and ridiculed for it. Ai is: Bad for jobs. Bad for truth. Bad for trust. Good for manipulation. all you can do for the last is to stop feeding the data sets by protecting your privacy, your clicks and stop posting your whole life on SM.

Pearce

Definitely agree Chipp and Google's behaviour over the past decade has certainly ruled them out as a trustworthy not to absolutely use these tools to propagandise people. If not something entirely worse.

Chipp Walters

Yes, you couldn't be more right about search bias. Just Google white family and look in the images and you'll see half of them show diversity instead of white. For years now I have found that when I search for anything that might have any sort of bias, I always use duckduckgo. Google cannot be trusted ever since they deleted their mantra: "do no evil." And having grown up in a world where monopolies were routinely broken up by the government, I am saddened and disappointed by our current group of leaders who are only interested in taking money from Google and the big tech companies rather than actually govern the people. Google has over 95% of the search market. That is the very definition of a monopoly. Our leaders standby and do nothing.

Chipp Walters

What you say is true. AI can only get you 85 to 90% of the way there. You still can't art direct AI. Nor can you take the steering wheel out of a Tesla. And, now after the Google debacle, the overall trust in AI has taken a huge hit.

Chipp Walters

Most designers understand that everything is derivative. In fact as designers, we often create mood boards where we borrow from images that inspire us. Just look at Apple and how they've ripped off Dieter Rams. It's been going on since before AI. Still, you have a really good point about how AI will create a lifeless mishmash of art styles and overcome new artists efforts with an avalanche of images being generated everyday.

Chipp Walters

Again, as I've said. I don't have issue with the creativity process as much. What I have issue with is the specific inherent biases programmed into AIs that will overtime change minds and history. We are like the proverbial frog in boiling water.

Chipp Walters

My issue, as I stated, is not with the creative part of AI but rather its ability to propagandize and change history based on inherent biases. The fact that a single programming team can create an AI that can change the minds of billions of users is a scary thought indeed.

Chipp Walters

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cio/2024/02/29/a-litany-of-apologies-over-googles-gemini-ai/?sh=7231318dc818

Samuel

In a nutshell AI will make traditional human pieces being more valuable because making art will be easier. I have been finetunning for 2 years and a bit more right now and have more than 15 years of art projects in company works outside AI. You can't stop the progress and WE need and this is hard for some but WE NEED, WE REALLY NEED to adapt to it in these workflows OR being niche and continue to our things with the risks it may have,

Marco Chacon

What is going on with the pictures? What is specifically special about Gemini?

Sean Glenn

I started my design career just as the old school designers were loudly sounding alarms about the death of craft thanks to desktop publishing. They were right, of course. We lost all the hand lettering, all the carefully constructed grid-based layouts in books, the impeccable spacing even in the most mundane typeset copy. Ai is going to kill off a bunch of jobs, wreak havoc politically, and probably destroy the concept of artwork having value at all, and either destroy or cement copyright—not sure which is worse, honestly. My friends who work in film and television pre-production are freaking out; they either think it's all ending tomorrow or they're scrambling to figure out ways to use these tools that don't look identical to the other 2.5 million images Midjourney spits out every day. It was bad enough to get the Artstation-ification of concept and environmental design, as everyone copied the most popular and then everyone else copied the copies. Same thing happened with design thanks to Dribbble. It won't eliminate the human from the equation entirely, but the human touch is going to be something seen as a luxury. If only we had been able to build AI to wash dishes or pick strawberries, instead it's all artists and writers… It feels like such a Pandora's Box, and it's never going back in. I guess we march forwards towards Roko's Basilisk.

Keo Match

I agree on pretty much everything you’ve said although go even further and say that undoubtedly that ai has already been fully weaponised but now with the accessibility becoming even more open and user friendly it won’t be long before it could truly go nuclear (and I would like to think I’m being metaphorical here but scarily it could be a more literal statement than I’d like too). As a creative I also feel that the theft of content for ai models is absolutely disgusting but much like any kind of invasion backed by a powerful crowded swell I fear that any justice will be too little to late. Sadly I think some of the most wonderful creative minds contribution will be remix, regenerated and echoed into a meaningless void of algorithmic vomit as the same basic ideas will be repeated again and again telling the ai that these ideas are valuable because of demand and not understanding quality of substance. Will there be expressive new explorations via ai? Of course but the capacity for them to be heard and held with significance will be harder than ever and even more sparatical. What’s the answer? No idea. Adapt or die. Rebel through analogue maybe. Protect through substantiated knowledge and journalism morality while fending off the editorial and bucks based biases that are looking for your eyes and taps. I personally think graffiti in the physical space will become even more relevant and it will take on an even more important role in the digital space as plea for authenticity and independence. A future that equally light and dark but unfortunately as those 2 mix we will be coated in a dirty grey and I’m no sure we have the tools to clean these glass house windows off enough to let the light back in. One day hopefully… hopefully.

Alexander Virgint

For me, the issue with AI has always been one of labour. You touched briefly on it about relearning vocations, but these people were still experts in their fields who needed to learn how to use new tools. But AI isn't being sold as a tool, it's being sold as a replacement; for artists, for filmmakers, writers, photographers, engineers, programmers, customer service reps, every single level of the labour process is told that a machine is threatening to replace them. But a replacement would necessarily have to be competent, and AI is not competent. It makes mistakes, it lies, and it's incredibly gullible. It is only as good as the training data it has access to, and even with the incalculable wealth of information on the internet it seems only capable of producing things that "look right." This is a fundamental flaw of AI; it is an unreliable tool and a bad replacement for human labour. What it ends up being is a gift to disinformation campaigns and conmen. My expectation is the bottom of this is going to fall out eventually, but not before a lot of very large companies get roped into very expensive subscriptions and the rest of us get a completely ruined internet.

Ray L. Ackerly

And on the search thing... I saw this about 20 years ago because studies that contradicted the political narrative would stop being findable. Data just straight up deleted that I used to connect. The biggest clue was when all the news outlets starting removing comments, which previously served as a source of nuance for arguments.

Ray L. Ackerly

To be fair... the reviews issue was already happening with people. We never know who is sponsored and whatnot even at the highest levels of government worldwide. The problem to me is that money is an ai system and some inputs are pretty heavily overweighted. AI is only winning because it's competing with humans not perfection to start. And we run on toast... ;).


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