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Pushing Through the Limit Chapter 44: Inner Darkness Outer Peace

🕑 Added 2024-09-06 05:16:04 +0000 UTC

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SkulduggeryHaven

I agree that Hiruzen wasn’t the strongest Shinobi ever, don’t get me wrong, but he was by no means weak either. The main thing that severely weakened him was his old age. He wasn’t able to fight as well as he used to be and he didn’t have as much Chakra, but even then he was able to fight Orochimaru to a stand still and fend off Hashirama and Tobirama who, despite being heavily nerfed, were able to use some really powerful Jutsu. I don’t see Hiruzen winning a fight with the third Raikage, as you said, he was insanely powerful, being able to evenly match the Hachibi until they both collapsed from Chakra exhaustion and I just can't see Hiruzen outlasting that. Maybe if he figured out the weakness to the Sandaime's Lightning armor, he might be able to wound him. I do think that a fight between Hiruzen in his prime and the third Raikage would be an epic one though. Hiruzen was called the professor after all and would likely have more than a few tricks up his sleeve in order to level the playing field.

Hersh Jobanputra

The third Hokage is overhyped. Let's look at the Third generation. 3rd Raikage - Strongest Shield and Spear along with Black Lightning. He would stomp Hiruzen. Old Hiruzen with all the experience and battle intelligence still had to whip at minimum 10 to 15 hand signs. Plus for his fancy combination in Ninjutsu he needs to make a shadow on so he's splitting his chakra in half and he does not have huge reserves. He's got Kage reserves but no huge when compared to other Kages. the only thing he got going for him is his adamantine staff, but he would need to be fast enough to hit the Raikage with it. Which he is not. 3rd Tshuikage - Particle Style survived until Boruto became a shinobi. In the fourth ninja war, Gaara and ex-jinchuriki ran out of chakra before him. He was like 75 - 80 at that point. This man destroyed a whole meteoroid survived a meteoroid falling on him agter that. Fought the 2nd Tshukage which I believe is almost as strong as Tobirama. After that he fought Madara although he lost he was the main attack power it was only his particle style that was doing damage everything else failed. Plus he can fly. Yeah, Hiruzen is not beating him. 3rd Kazekage - I think Hiruzen can beat him. 3rd Mizukage - Irrelevent or maybe not since it's technically Madara So Hiruzen can only win against 2 of the 5 Kages. 1 if you count Madara. Not that impressive.

SkulduggeryHaven

Kakashi's definitely going to be stronger than he was in Canon. He's definitely going to be able to hold his own against some of the stronger characters in Shippuden and prove to be a major asset. I don't want to spoil too much, but in terms of strength he's going to be decently more powerful than the Third Hokage while not yet being as strong as Hiruzen was in his prime who is an entirely different monster.

Hersh Jobanputra

I hope Kakashi is way stronger than Canon by the start of Shippuden. I don't want the only difference between Pre-Shippuden and Shippuden Kakashi being him being slightly faster and slightly stronger and kind of sort of being able to use the Manekyo. That would just be disappointing. There's so many routes he could go. at this point, I am just ranting, but he should be stronger than the White Fang and the Third Hokage at this point. He was the youngest Jonin in the history of the village. He should be around 26 now and he became Jonin at 12. He has learned nothing new in that period of time. I hope he picks up Kenjutsu again. Maybe have him focus on Fuinjutsu. Improving his Chidori maybe getting Purple Lightning earlier. He knows the threat the village and Naruto is facing. But he still doesn't want to train. Just wants to be lazy at this point. He just needs to reality check. He keeps crying about the people he has lost, but is not trying to save the people he currently has, and when he loses them because of his incompetence, he'll cry about them too.

SkulduggeryHaven

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed this arc, it means a lot. I can't wait to get to some of the later arcs I've got planned.

James French

Honestly I really enjoy the route this took, it feels original and authentic 🤷🏻‍♂️

SkulduggeryHaven

Glad to hear your thoughts on this. I'll do my best to explain why I feel this is necessary. Absorbing his darkness isn't as easy as saying "I accept you." The darkness is made up of everything Naruto represses and can't accept. In canon, Naruto struggles to come to terms with how everyone hated him and how they now accept him. He struggled to face that originally, but finally came to terms with it when he made his signature. This Naruto has a bit more self awareness and awareness of the world around him. He's struggling not only with what's left over from the past Naruto, but also where his own actions have led him. He still gets to train on the Island, with Kakashi, Fu, Yugito and Bee, He's still getting something out of it. This arc is actually pretty much finished. The timeskip happens in the next chapter.

Zombie45

No. Just no. I've stated multiple times that this entire endeavor was unnecessary and frankly a waste of time, but I figured the inner darkness would be the original Naruto's inner darkness or his leftovers or something and this whole situation would be far more compelling, but this is such a colossal waste of time. Just absorb the darkness or let it remain, why attempt therapy?


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