Flamewar

Ack

The solution is simple. Have a human league and an AI league. Kind of like Paralympics and the Olympics.

you mean Blurnsball

Sarah Manx

The look on Eliot's face = that one time I tried to talk about IRC to people I just met. 😅

George Wilson

I think Punchbot would have an unfair advantage in UFC.

Julia Allen-Hesse

I lost it at fuck toilet

Mark Thomas

but how do you determine a fair "standard"? humans vary significantly even within a single sport, too the extent that sometimes those so train the maximum safely health amount will max out in talent/skill/performance equal to players who are so capable that they practice am hour or two a day and just eat generally healthily but continue to be in the top 1%. Do AIs simply get to just exist at the top 1% because that's the cap set for them? or do they get locked out of the top 10% forever because the "standard" is set lower than that out of "fairness", such that they input nothing but the cap program and achieve near greatness anyway but are denied being the best because they weren't born human? how would you regulate their chances of improving or worsening their abilities in comparison to that standard?

Wild Card

Sounds like a typical discussion forum "debate"

Hugh Eckert

EvangelionGreg is a pseudo for Yelling Bird.

I am the captian now

Wasn't there an episode of futurama about robots and baseball?

Frédéric B.

All I know is that TASBot does not compete in the same categories as puny meatbags.

Jere

lol

Mark

Up your user name game, dude, or was Evangreglion unavailable?

Ardent Slacker

I prefer ducktoilet and fic-pile. Not for cursing, just in lexicon. A pile of dicks sounds like... I dunno... Jeffrey Dahmer's leftovers bin.

Aran Fielder

Just fucking @ me next time, Jeeze! 😂

Joseph Bonnar

So PINTSIZE is the barstard who stole my handle!

Evgeniy Semyonov

And on the other side of town Pintsize logs out as EvangelionGreg, relogins under DarkYagami69 and continues to rant about the unfair AI advantages.

James Dore

TOO REAL

Ralf Paul

Hello? Anyone?

Ralf Paul

What's a shadowban, everybody?

Bagge

WAIT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO, SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS!

Bagge

What, no dick-rombas? Someone need to give May access to ai forums.

Emma Humphries

Many Stripes. No gods.

Rob McBobson

They haven't been part of tournaments, though.

Thomas Halpin

I don't see any reason a standard for performance couldn't be measured for the non-AI players, and then the AI players underclock their gaming output to meet that standard.

Dan Rorabaugh

Well I understood point 1, conceded and agreed with point 2, but point 3 c'mon Clinton what the hell the World Series is just around the corner man.

Milo

Hmm this makes me wonder if there are cybernetic human/computer interfaces and how they would affect the whole discussion...

OldGoat

"Dickpile" and "fucktoilet." The lexicon has expanded this day.

Michael

He wasn't ready for that at all

Grace Kieser

Right!? It's so good!

Grace Kieser

Jeph coming through with the choice swears! I'm gonna start using "fucktoilet" in my own life!

Populuxe

What was the advice Clinton got when he was preparing for his epic date with Emily? It seems relevant right now. “Okay, maybe be yourself, but not, like, too much.” https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2852

SpookyPenguin

It wasn't until my mid 20's that I learnt to stop monologuing. I'm really Brun but I mask post-Clinton. This really brings it all back.

KCkittysnores

I’m really hoping that passionate nerdery is part of Clinton’s charm. At this point I don’t care WHICH Elliot-ship makes port, I just want to wave her in.

awgiedawgie

Clinton should have used the argument that humans *for decades* have been playing - and yes, even winning - against computers in all kinds of games. So why should it now suddenly be against the rules for an AI to play against humans?

Captain Button

I think it is too early in the relationship for that level of honesty.

Alex Thompson

THE GREAT PEANUT HUNGERS

Huh

Fuzzy Logik

A giant god damned nerd. That's not so much an insult.

Kyramasu

This feels like a VoidCowboy reference...

Fuzzy Logik

Ehh, how long do you think that it would take for that to be a "they're biased for their own kind!" And "why can't humans be refs!"

Onedavewreckingcrew

Don't worry, Elliot. I wouldn't know how to respond to that either.

Played, I'll bet

The slightly aghast expression that Elliot has says it all.

Kyle Rudy

They have programs to simulate drunkenness, and they clearly have the capacity to get so fucking bored that they just stop paying attention. IMO, that gives AI everything they need to appreciate and participate in baseball!

Kyle Rudy

I'm glad all that character growth and personal development haven't spoiled who Clinton is at his core.

Cariad

Let them play and if they keep on winning create a human league.

Carin Maja Brooks

I feel there's a parallel to certain "should these people be allowed to compete" questions but its potentially a false parallel

Words cannot express how much I fucking love Clinton. He's awkward, adorable and the absolute best.

Carin Maja Brooks

Straight up plugging a neural interface into a PCI Express slot

Clifton Royston

Surely all of us have been that Clinton at one time or another.

Carin Maja Brooks

Is that a typo and you meant pitching, or was it a machine that was well hung?

Jax

Maybe Spookybot will volunteerto help him practice that too.

Jeffrey Anderson

Perhaps it is time for Elliot to escalate to the oral sex portion of the date to induce Clinton to stop talking. Just sayin'

Ariamaki

EvangelionGreg is also clearly right in this particular argument regardless of how much he sucks, so that's a bit rough. Having to agree with shitty people is, in and of itself, not fun. :V

Nikki

Its like a toilet, but for fuckin'.

Miyaa

AIs should be the referees for all e-sports. Issue resolved.

Jonathan Marinaro

Man, fuck EvangelionGreg. Or not, because clearly noone should have that job.

Seth Aaron Hershman has they she pronouns

Claire just graduated and Clinton is a couple of years younger than her so I assume he's still in school.

Miyaa

One question: does Clinton have an actual job or is he a college student not yet to the point of starting on his dissertation?

KCT

Or, more appropriately, the different weight classes in boxing. You're not putting a featherweight vs a heavyweight.

drone r0m-3

As an Unlimited Tacos fan, I just want to say that we let Pitching Machine play most of a season for us when all of our pitchers were "incapacitated". So, yes, I would.

Jaron Mortimer

I'd argue that Greg is close to making a salient point, but went about it like a Dickwaffle. If the gap between human players and AI players would be so large as to consider a ban, you'd be looking at making a new league. In basketball, this wouldn't be akin to banning players who are taller, this would be akin to making the WNBA.

James Cooper

Was my feeling too, if our crude AI playing chess can beat a world champion then advance sentient AI would have a distinct advantage. Of course if there is some form of anticheating software that limits the speed of everything to greater than like .5 second or whatever the fastest human reaction time and such...

Alex Borders

I identify with Elliot. I've had that kind of conversation.

David Johnson

If we can have robot umpires we can have robot players dammit!

least_rectangles

Oh dear god, the APM from being able to just send USB-HID packets from your brain to the PC would be mental

Benzy

$5 says Elliot likes baseball a lot

Anyone with evangelion in their name is the worst

...Fluffy!? Fluffy! Hope you're well! (I think I recognize you from song fight 10 years ago, but it's my memory so who knows! 🤣)

R L

"The usual" just ends me.

A. J. Alfieri-Crispin

Fucktoilet?

EvangelionGreg is right. Unless they have program to simulate human fallibility it doesn't seem fair.

phoebe

I identify with clinton

Michael Boettger

That look on Elliot's face.

VGreenGoblinV

It’s never been more real. 😆

Spoogle McGee

The sollution: Ban Sports.

fluffy

More to the point, you wouldn't want a pitching machine in a baseball game because the batters would all know exactly what's coming every time.

Adam with two As, a D, and an M

A pitching machine was the sole pitcher for Unlimited Los Angeli Tacos in Blaseball for most of a season.

Weird, I usually get 24 hour bans when I say that

BeatButton

I have never related more to a webcomic character before this moment

Joel Bateman

I'm gonna start using "fucktoilet" from this day forward.

Cody Renton

I love that all cursing in the QCverse consists of offensive portmanteaus